±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: Robski
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6641

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 113
Total: 113
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: CPGlang
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Photo Gallery
12: Home
13: Member Screenshots
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: CPGlang
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Downloads
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Your Account
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Community Forums
37: Downloads
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Member Screenshots
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Member Screenshots
50: Community Forums
51: Statistics
52: Community Forums
53: CPGlang
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Photo Gallery
60: Member Screenshots
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Downloads
68: Downloads
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Member Screenshots
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: CPGlang
79: Community Forums
80: CPGlang
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: CPGlang
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Home
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Member Screenshots
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Help identify this strange armor....
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:37 am
Post subject: Help identify this strange armor....



I found this Russian marsh tank on strangemilitary.com. And was wondering if this is true info. So I will leave this to you experts. By the way, this is Jeffrey, not my dad, SFC Button. I used to post on Officers Club but now I'm doing the armor thing instead.

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:48 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

I believe that is Russian Experimental Heavy Tank Object 279 it is in
shed 1 at Kubinka. It is real and I've seen it

Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4666
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:58 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Yep. Sometimes called the "atomic tank" or some such fanciful stuff.
(Hi Jeffrey!)



Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
JeffStringer
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 637

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Just when you thought working on the T-28's suspension/track system was bad enough, imagine this one and in the Russian winter too! Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3941
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:42 am
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Oh yeah! Imagine trying to re-track on one of the center sets! Or working on that part of the suspension in any way...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2522
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

All we ever see is the front of that beast. I'm curious as to how the drivetrain at the rear is set up. Also I wonder what weird stuff is under the sheets next to it in armyjunk's picture?

Jeffery, naw I think you'll be Lil-J

As I remember reading this vehicle was designed with two goals in mind

1) Low ground pressure to use in the extensive soft marshy areas that show up, especially in the spring, in much of the old Soviet Union

2) Survivability to nearby nuclear blasts (hencce the name 'Atomic Tank' The shape of the hull was supposed to make it less vulnerable to the shock and blast wave from the explosions

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Bob, You can't tell that is Russian Experimental Heavy Tank Object 277 by the shape of the sheets??? I have the following reference books on Kubinka, I sorta assume people have these but maybe not, I got both from Ebay and it took a while................

1. Model Art no. 460 and no.473 both published in 1994 in Japanese but with English and Japanese Titles on the Pics, each have about 150 different tanks, done by shed. No ISBM number that I can find.

2. This book is almost the same thing but in Russian, no English and one volume, 270 pages. ISBM number 5-88541-004-6, its a hard back book and not very hard to figure the titles out. This one I would sell if I had any idea what its worth.

plus when I go back to Kubinka I could look for more books if someone wanted one, they might not exist any more 1994 was a while ago. Also closer to when I go I will put a note on for picture request.....


Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3941
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

That latter one sounds interesting - probably begging for an English translation...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Here is some info I found for the obiek 279 trojanov.

The OBIEK 279 TROJANOV

Weight: 60t???
Length: c. 7/11 m
Width: c. 4 m
Armor: 266-305 mm
Gun: 130 mm
Shells stored: 24
Machine-gun: 14,5 mm
Engine: 16/960 hps
alt.: 2DG-8M (1000 ps)
Speed: km/h
Crew: 4

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
Cloudy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

I have a book in english on Kubinka entitled "Kubinka, The Russian Museum of Armoured Vehicles" by Michael K. Cecil and published in 1992. It's filled with relatively poor snapshot-quality b&w photos of the collection with descriptions. It looks like they visited in winter since all the vehicles appear to be frost covered Smile I've been interested in the Obiekt 279 & IS-4 ever since I saw their photos in this book!

Alan
Back to top
View user's profile
Jeffrey_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 60
Location: Killeen,Tx
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Help identify this strange armor....

Thanks cloudy for the info. Can you shoot me any of those shots, thanks

_________________
Jeffrey Button, aka "LiL-J"
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum