±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 606
Total: 606
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Photo Gallery
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Home
08: Photo Gallery
09: Community Forums
10: Photo Gallery
11: Home
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Downloads
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Downloads
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Member Screenshots
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Home
46: Member Screenshots
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Statistics
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Member Screenshots
58: Your Account
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: Member Screenshots
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Downloads
66: Home
67: Downloads
68: Community Forums
69: News Archive
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Photo Gallery
80: Member Screenshots
81: Community Forums
82: Photo Gallery
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Home
87: Photo Gallery
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Downloads
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Downloads
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Your Account
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Home
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Downloads
136: Photo Gallery
137: News Archive
138: Community Forums
139: Downloads
140: Community Forums
141: Downloads
142: Downloads
143: Your Account
144: Statistics
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Downloads
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Home
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Downloads
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Your Account
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Photo Gallery
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Home
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Downloads
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Downloads
196: News Archive
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Photo Gallery
202: Photo Gallery
203: Home
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Your Account
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Downloads
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Photo Gallery
231: Photo Gallery
232: Downloads
233: Community Forums
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Photo Gallery
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Your Account
244: CPGlang
245: Community Forums
246: Member Screenshots
247: Photo Gallery
248: Statistics
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: CPGlang
257: Your Account
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Photo Gallery
266: Photo Gallery
267: Your Account
268: Community Forums
269: Downloads
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Photo Gallery
274: Photo Gallery
275: Community Forums
276: Statistics
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Community Forums
283: Downloads
284: Your Account
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Community Forums
290: CPGlang
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Home
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Home
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Downloads
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Downloads
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Home
317: Photo Gallery
318: Downloads
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Community Forums
322: Downloads
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Downloads
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Downloads
337: Home
338: Home
339: Home
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Photo Gallery
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Photo Gallery
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Home
349: Home
350: Home
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Photo Gallery
354: Community Forums
355: CPGlang
356: Photo Gallery
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Photo Gallery
364: Community Forums
365: Your Account
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Home
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Downloads
380: Downloads
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Your Account
385: Photo Gallery
386: Downloads
387: Photo Gallery
388: Photo Gallery
389: Home
390: Downloads
391: Member Screenshots
392: Photo Gallery
393: Downloads
394: Photo Gallery
395: Photo Gallery
396: News
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Home
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Home
420: Home
421: Community Forums
422: Photo Gallery
423: Supporters
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Home
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Home
433: Photo Gallery
434: Community Forums
435: Downloads
436: Photo Gallery
437: Your Account
438: Downloads
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Photo Gallery
455: Photo Gallery
456: Photo Gallery
457: Community Forums
458: Photo Gallery
459: Your Account
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Home
463: Search
464: Community Forums
465: Home
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Photo Gallery
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Downloads
480: Home
481: Home
482: Photo Gallery
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: CPGlang
490: Community Forums
491: News Archive
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Photo Gallery
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Your Account
502: News
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Downloads
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Photo Gallery
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Home
526: Photo Gallery
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Member Screenshots
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Home
547: Community Forums
548: Photo Gallery
549: Home
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: CPGlang
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Member Screenshots
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Downloads
561: Home
562: Downloads
563: Photo Gallery
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Photo Gallery
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: CPGlang
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: Statistics
581: Community Forums
582: Home
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: CPGlang
592: Photo Gallery
593: Community Forums
594: Photo Gallery
595: Photo Gallery
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Photo Gallery
601: Photo Gallery
602: Downloads
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Home
606: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:17 pm
Post subject: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Hi Folks!

Ran acrossed this news story.

www.army-technology.co...programme/

So the Army is going to test a General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) built Namer AIFV, a BAE Systems Swedish CV90, turret-less Bradley M2A3
and GD Stryker double-V-hull vehicle.

Interesting!

Anyone what to take bets on what willl happien?

Here is mine:
1. The GCV program will not get funded after the testing is completed.
2. The Stryker double-V-hull will be selected because it will be the cheapest.
The one bad point I can think of is this one would require new vehicles.
3. My last pick would be the turret-less Bradley.
Sense the GCV will replace some of the Bradleys, this one might be the cheapest becasue those Bradleys taken out of service could be used to build the new GCVs.
4. The CV-90 and the Namer will not be selected.
I know the US has been buying foreign equipment for a number of years. I just don't think during this time of high unemployment, Congress would buy a foreign build vehicle. Now if GDLS or BAE could build a plant in the US, then maybe they could get Congress to go with it.

That my 2 cents on the GCV program!
Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

The GCV prototypes currently in low rate production are based on much modified Abrams hulls - probably why the Namer is in the test program

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Let's hope for the sake of the troops, that they pick the right one and don't just think of pork-barrelling.
Back to top
View user's profile
Smashy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 05, 2010
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

The foreign kit is just there to have its best features cherry-picked

_________________
Smashy
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:56 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

BAE just released some graphics of its GCV concept

www.flickr.com/photos/...otostream/

www.baesystems.com/pro...ehicle-gcv

My take is I wouldnt be surprised if GCV got caught in the changing requirements cycle dilemma just like the FCS MGVs.

FCS was designed/developed for rapid deployment requirements in the pre-9/11 pre-COIN era. FCS lasted from ~1999 (contract award in 2003) until 2009, well into the 9/11 COIN era - cancelled in large part due to the need for more survivability in a high IED environment.

GCV started in ~2009/2010, focused on delivering just an IFV (despite Gates' comments about a fleet a vehicles) based on lessons learned from Iraq & Afghanistan. Now just two years later, the COIN era has already been declared to be over/ending and DOD is shifting focus to the Pacific - where, guess what, rapid deployment capabilities are a priority...

And meanwhile there is absolutely no stated plan for replacement of:
M1 Abrams, M3 Bradley CFV, M109 family. The first two are approaching 25 years in service, with no replacement on the horizon for another 10-15+ years. They're talking about shutting down Lima for Abrams upgrades (actual production of new hulls ended decades ago). Meanwhile, the M109 family is approaching 45 years in service, with yet another upgrade now underway...

Wouldnt be surprised if the GCV requirements/acquisition strategy undergo another shakeup - but hopefully it wont take 10 years and billions down the drain before that happens...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:48 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

It's a government procurement, for the military.
It's bound to be
a) Years late
b) Hugely over budget
c) Not really what's required
Or am I just too cynical?
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

- Pzkpfw-e
It's a government procurement, for the military.
It's bound to be
a) Years late
b) Hugely over budget
c) Not really what's required
Or am I just too cynical?


Sounds about right Smile

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:12 am
Post subject: Re: Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) news

Given the budget cuts that are coming because Congress can't agree on a budget so the automatic budget cuts will kick in I don't see any major programs being funded in the next few years

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum