±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 825
Total: 825
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Photo Gallery
05: Home
06: Photo Gallery
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Downloads
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Photo Gallery
20: Photo Gallery
21: Photo Gallery
22: News Archive
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Home
44: Photo Gallery
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Your Account
48: Photo Gallery
49: Home
50: Home
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Downloads
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Photo Gallery
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Member Screenshots
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Downloads
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Home
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: CPGlang
93: Community Forums
94: Member Screenshots
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: Member Screenshots
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Statistics
127: Photo Gallery
128: Home
129: Photo Gallery
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Home
134: Downloads
135: Community Forums
136: Home
137: Downloads
138: Photo Gallery
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Photo Gallery
158: Downloads
159: Member Screenshots
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: Statistics
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Member Screenshots
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Community Forums
173: Photo Gallery
174: Member Screenshots
175: Photo Gallery
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Photo Gallery
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Photo Gallery
191: Member Screenshots
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Home
198: Community Forums
199: Downloads
200: Downloads
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Home
207: Photo Gallery
208: Member Screenshots
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Photo Gallery
212: Downloads
213: CPGlang
214: Home
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: News
218: Home
219: Home
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Statistics
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Downloads
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Home
242: Your Account
243: Downloads
244: Home
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Photo Gallery
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Home
273: Home
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Member Screenshots
277: Photo Gallery
278: Downloads
279: Community Forums
280: Downloads
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Photo Gallery
286: Community Forums
287: Statistics
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: News Archive
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Statistics
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Photo Gallery
306: Member Screenshots
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Community Forums
311: Downloads
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Member Screenshots
318: Your Account
319: Home
320: Contact
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Home
324: Home
325: Photo Gallery
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Home
333: News
334: Community Forums
335: Downloads
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: News
339: Home
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Member Screenshots
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Photo Gallery
352: Home
353: Photo Gallery
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Your Account
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Home
368: Community Forums
369: Home
370: Photo Gallery
371: Photo Gallery
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Photo Gallery
378: Your Account
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Home
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Downloads
391: News Archive
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Photo Gallery
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Home
402: Home
403: Photo Gallery
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Member Screenshots
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Home
410: Downloads
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: CPGlang
417: Photo Gallery
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: Downloads
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Your Account
427: Downloads
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Member Screenshots
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Members List
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Downloads
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Your Account
450: Downloads
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Home
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Supporters
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Downloads
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Photo Gallery
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Photo Gallery
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: Your Account
512: Community Forums
513: Photo Gallery
514: Community Forums
515: Photo Gallery
516: Photo Gallery
517: Community Forums
518: CPGlang
519: Community Forums
520: Photo Gallery
521: Home
522: Photo Gallery
523: Community Forums
524: Downloads
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Member Screenshots
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Photo Gallery
531: Photo Gallery
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: Home
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Downloads
543: Community Forums
544: Photo Gallery
545: Photo Gallery
546: Community Forums
547: Photo Gallery
548: Photo Gallery
549: Community Forums
550: Home
551: Home
552: Home
553: Community Forums
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Photo Gallery
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Downloads
563: Community Forums
564: Photo Gallery
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Downloads
570: Downloads
571: Downloads
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Home
575: Community Forums
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Photo Gallery
581: Photo Gallery
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: CPGlang
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Home
596: Community Forums
597: Downloads
598: Photo Gallery
599: Home
600: Downloads
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Photo Gallery
605: Community Forums
606: Community Forums
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Photo Gallery
610: Community Forums
611: Photo Gallery
612: Photo Gallery
613: Community Forums
614: Photo Gallery
615: Photo Gallery
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Photo Gallery
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Photo Gallery
624: Community Forums
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Photo Gallery
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Member Screenshots
636: Home
637: Community Forums
638: Member Screenshots
639: Photo Gallery
640: Home
641: Photo Gallery
642: Your Account
643: Member Screenshots
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Home
649: Home
650: Community Forums
651: Photo Gallery
652: Community Forums
653: Downloads
654: Community Forums
655: Photo Gallery
656: Home
657: Community Forums
658: Photo Gallery
659: Community Forums
660: Community Forums
661: Photo Gallery
662: Home
663: Photo Gallery
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Home
670: Photo Gallery
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: News
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Photo Gallery
677: Community Forums
678: Member Screenshots
679: News Archive
680: CPGlang
681: News
682: Community Forums
683: Member Screenshots
684: Community Forums
685: Photo Gallery
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Downloads
689: Community Forums
690: Downloads
691: Member Screenshots
692: Community Forums
693: Community Forums
694: Community Forums
695: Downloads
696: Photo Gallery
697: Photo Gallery
698: CPGlang
699: Community Forums
700: CPGlang
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Community Forums
704: Community Forums
705: Community Forums
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Member Screenshots
712: Home
713: Photo Gallery
714: Community Forums
715: Downloads
716: Community Forums
717: Community Forums
718: Community Forums
719: Photo Gallery
720: Community Forums
721: Home
722: Community Forums
723: Community Forums
724: Community Forums
725: Community Forums
726: Photo Gallery
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Search
730: Community Forums
731: Downloads
732: Community Forums
733: Your Account
734: Community Forums
735: Community Forums
736: Community Forums
737: Community Forums
738: Photo Gallery
739: Community Forums
740: Photo Gallery
741: Photo Gallery
742: Member Screenshots
743: Photo Gallery
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Photo Gallery
747: Community Forums
748: Community Forums
749: Community Forums
750: Member Screenshots
751: Photo Gallery
752: Community Forums
753: Community Forums
754: Community Forums
755: Downloads
756: Member Screenshots
757: Your Account
758: Community Forums
759: Community Forums
760: Photo Gallery
761: Community Forums
762: Downloads
763: Community Forums
764: Photo Gallery
765: Statistics
766: Community Forums
767: Photo Gallery
768: Home
769: Photo Gallery
770: Photo Gallery
771: Community Forums
772: Photo Gallery
773: Community Forums
774: Home
775: Community Forums
776: Photo Gallery
777: Community Forums
778: Community Forums
779: Downloads
780: Home
781: Community Forums
782: Photo Gallery
783: Community Forums
784: CPGlang
785: Community Forums
786: Community Forums
787: Home
788: Member Screenshots
789: Community Forums
790: Member Screenshots
791: Community Forums
792: Home
793: Home
794: Community Forums
795: Home
796: Community Forums
797: Home
798: Photo Gallery
799: Community Forums
800: News Archive
801: Photo Gallery
802: Photo Gallery
803: Community Forums
804: Photo Gallery
805: Community Forums
806: Community Forums
807: Home
808: Photo Gallery
809: Community Forums
810: Photo Gallery
811: Community Forums
812: Community Forums
813: Community Forums
814: Statistics
815: Community Forums
816: Community Forums
817: CPGlang
818: Home
819: Community Forums
820: Photo Gallery
821: Community Forums
822: Downloads
823: Photo Gallery
824: Community Forums
825: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
off topic Vietnam
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Al_Bowie
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:12 am
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

The forward Bolt Assist was ingrained in our weapon handling drills on the M16 (Aust Army). When cocking the weapon we hammered the bolt assist as part of the drill regardless of whether the bolt seated or not.
This caused some confusion in one early live shoot when the weapon I was allocated to on the range (our normal weapons were SLR L1A1) was an early M16 with no Bolt assist.

In one of the training courses i did the subject of the M16's introduction to service was discussed and in particular why it was a bad idea to not fully train troops with new equipment on issue. In particular it appears that the early training indicated incorrect cleaning procedures for the weapon. Coupled with propellent problems which fouled the Gas return line it led to many a problem with poorly seated bolts and subsequent failures to fire.

Discussions with our vets indicated ejection fauilures on early models hence the pics of troops with Cleaning rods taped to the weapon to dislodge un ejected cartridges.


Cheers
Spanner
Back to top
View user's profile
oldtop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 70

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:37 am
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

You can buy AR15 in just about any configuration you want, such as this one pictured below, which is one the ARs I shoot at the local range.

It's weight is around 9lbs because of the heavy "bull barrel"
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:41 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- oldtop
I guess I'm an "ole guy", having landed in Nam in April of 65 (Marines), we didn't see the M16s till late 66 I believe. as for myself being a track-mec/ scout in a Ontos (hi dontos) plt. I kept my M14.


Hey 'Ole Top' just been doing some reading,.... Guess you rode the waves in with 3/4 Marines & 3rd Plt, Co B, 3rd AT?

Just trying to do my 'Homework'.


_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
oldtop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 70

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:12 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

Yup..April 15, However, and this is what I ment by what the records say and what the records should say, it was 3rd plt "C" company that landed with BLT 3/4, less than two months later this plt became the 3rd plt of "B" company with the stroke of a pen. This drove some of the other nembers of the original "C" company nuts, Lt Terry couldn't figuer out how I was of the roster for both companys in the same year and month. It's the little forgoten things that make people come to differant . They had forgot about the 1st Lt (hardhead) who was the plt leader at the time of the landing, he had just come into the company three days before the BLT sailed and none of the other officers knew him.
...the "story", In mid June (16th) the plt was leading a Arty Baty of 105mm guns to a new firing postion on the road about ten clicks outside Hue, first three vehicles were Ontos, I was sitting on the front right of the slope plate on the 2nd Pig in the column I watched for the lead Pig to stop and the plt Sgt would wave , this was the hand signal for me to come up and check out what ever was bothering him to his front (sharp blind bends in the road, bridges, fording places, and down into the the valleys of death..etc). as the vehicle I was on move along the road we were about a foot out of and to the right the lead Pig's tracks when "bang" we hit a mine on the right side. ..I went straight up and ricocheted off the right inboard gun tube and then landed on the engine grill right next to the driver's hatch, I yelled to "Harrie the Hog" the driver to kill the engine before we caught on fire, I crawled off the front but was having a little trouble standing, the blast besides making a wreck of the Pig had blown my right ear drum..other than that I was OK. Oh then some dummy rushed up to help and stepped on my sunglasses that had flown off..man do you know how hard it is to get sunglasses that fit in Nam in 1965!
Anyway two days later they flew a replacement Pig in and we were off on a "combat patrol" supporting a grunt unit, and we're at a "halt" out in "Indian country" I was on a small rise scaning with my binos (I hate surprises) when I heard this commotion back at the plt, our 1st Lt plt leader was sitting on the roadside bank crying and carrying on about how he couldn't sent the troops out to get killed any more..well he was replaced the next day and he became the lost and forgotten plt leader of "B" company 3rd Anti Tank Bn..and this is something that's not in any of the Marine Corps command reports.... Oh..ehh, I didn't hear what you said, a little hard of hearing ya know.
Back to top
View user's profile
GT98
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 02, 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:39 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- Joe_D
Doug is correct,
Your rifle is your personal weapon and if leadership cannot instill the value of maintaining and qualifying it in their troops the leadership needs to go away. Sorry, this subject gets to me. There is nothing wrong with the M16 today if put in the hands of a trained soldier. The old "I'm just a mechanic/cook/truck driver, what do I need to know that for?" just don't cut it.


I know when I was deployed to Bosina back in early 1996, I sure as hell made sure my M16A2 was clean at all times, even though I was just a mechanic (3/4 inch too tall to be a Tanker LOL). I know some of my fellow soliders had issues with that...but what else is there to do at 2 AM on radio watch? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile
SHAWN
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Posts: 484

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:44 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

better safe than sorry
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:28 am
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- oldtop
Yup..April 15, However, and this is what I ment by what the records say and what the records should say, it was 3rd plt "C" company that landed with BLT 3/4, less than two months later this plt became the 3rd plt of "B" company with the stroke of a pen. This drove some of the other nembers of the original "C" company nuts, Lt Terry couldn't figuer out how I was of the roster for both companys in the same year and month. It's the little forgoten things that make people come to differant . They had forgot about the 1st Lt (hardhead) who was the plt leader at the time of the landing, he had just come into the company three days before the BLT sailed and none of the other officers knew him.
...the "story", In mid June (16th) the plt was leading a Arty Baty of 105mm guns to a new firing postion on the road about ten clicks outside Hue, first three vehicles were Ontos, I was sitting on the front right of the slope plate on the 2nd Pig in the column I watched for the lead Pig to stop and the plt Sgt would wave , this was the hand signal for me to come up and check out what ever was bothering him to his front (sharp blind bends in the road, bridges, fording places, and down into the the valleys of death..etc). as the vehicle I was on move along the road we were about a foot out of and to the right the lead Pig's tracks when "bang" we hit a mine on the right side. ..I went straight up and ricocheted off the right inboard gun tube and then landed on the engine grill right next to the driver's hatch, I yelled to "Harrie the Hog" the driver to kill the engine before we caught on fire, I crawled off the front but was having a little trouble standing, the blast besides making a wreck of the Pig had blown my right ear drum..other than that I was OK. Oh then some dummy rushed up to help and stepped on my sunglasses that had flown off..man do you know how hard it is to get sunglasses that fit in Nam in 1965!
Anyway two days later they flew a replacement Pig in and we were off on a "combat patrol" supporting a grunt unit, and we're at a "halt" out in "Indian country" I was on a small rise scaning with my binos (I hate surprises) when I heard this commotion back at the plt, our 1st Lt plt leader was sitting on the roadside bank crying and carrying on about how he couldn't sent the troops out to get killed any more..well he was replaced the next day and he became the lost and forgotten plt leader of "B" company 3rd Anti Tank Bn..and this is something that's not in any of the Marine Corps command reports.... Oh..ehh, I didn't hear what you said, a little hard of hearing ya know.


Thanks for the input. Been reading 'more than a handful of CC's in the past week. Always neat to hear the 'insider' view.

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
oldtop
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 70

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:39 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

You may have noticed that there are no Marine "CC" for this mess we'er in now, thats because all the data from the units and commands is laying to one side in a vault at the University of Marines in it's raw form and know one knows what to do with it. However last year the 1st Amored Div found it's self in the same mess and got someone to lay it all in a nice comprehensible state.
Back to top
View user's profile
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:30 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

Here's one of the few photosthese days from the Army showing an actual full-length M16(A1?) in Iraq. You'll notice the carrying handle doesn't seem to be removable. Everyone behind him either has an M4 carbine or a SAW.

The SAW in back isn't too clear - does that weapon look shorter than normal to you?
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:17 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- mike_Duplessis
Here's one of the few photosthese days from the Army showing an actual full-length M16(A1?) in Iraq. You'll notice the carrying handle doesn't seem to be removable. Everyone behind him either has an M4 carbine or a SAW.



Hi Folks!

M-16(A1?), I'm not sure, but I think that might be a M16A2. Hand guards don't look right for the types of M-16A1s that I had to carry. That rifle has the newer rounded type of guards.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Jinx
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 186
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:08 pm
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- mike_Duplessis
The SAW in back isn't too clear - does that weapon look shorter than normal to you?



That is a short-barreled "paratroopers" variant. The original FN Minimi has a number of different paratrooper models, so it looks like the M249 can be similarly configured. This one looks like it has the fixed buttstock, but they are also (and i believe more commonly) available with telescoping buttstocks. The regular Minimi/M249 barrel is 465 mm long, and the para model has a 349 mm barrel.
Back to top
View user's profile
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:01 am
Post subject: Re: off topic Vietnam

- Roy_A_Lingle
...I think that might be a M16A2. Hand guards don't look right for the types of M-16A1s that I had to carry. That rifle has the newer rounded type of guards.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile


The closest weapon is an M16A2. The brass deflector bump behind the ejection port is the giveaway. It takes the place of the plastic clip-on deflector that was previously used by left-handed shooters. As for why this guy has a full size M16, I don't know. But he may be the designated sharpshooter for the squad/platoon, specifically tasked with "sniping" at longer ranges. The increased range and more stable hold of the longer weapon would be desirable in that case.

The second weapon is an M4, and the rear weapon is a short-barreled SAW.

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 3 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum