±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 628
Total: 628
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Photo Gallery
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Photo Gallery
08: Home
09: Downloads
10: Community Forums
11: Photo Gallery
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Downloads
17: Photo Gallery
18: Treasury
19: Statistics
20: Your Account
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Downloads
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Member Screenshots
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: Home
46: Your Account
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: CPGlang
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Statistics
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Photo Gallery
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Home
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Statistics
114: Community Forums
115: Your Account
116: Photo Gallery
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Downloads
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Home
129: Downloads
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Downloads
133: Member Screenshots
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Search
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: CPGlang
145: Community Forums
146: Statistics
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Your Account
155: Downloads
156: Home
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Statistics
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Downloads
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Downloads
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Your Account
178: Home
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Downloads
184: CPGlang
185: Photo Gallery
186: Photo Gallery
187: Photo Gallery
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Home
199: Community Forums
200: Home
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Your Account
204: Search
205: Community Forums
206: Downloads
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Statistics
212: Community Forums
213: Photo Gallery
214: Photo Gallery
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Photo Gallery
219: News
220: Community Forums
221: Your Account
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Downloads
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Photo Gallery
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Community Forums
235: Downloads
236: Photo Gallery
237: Home
238: Photo Gallery
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Downloads
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Home
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Home
260: News Archive
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Community Forums
273: Your Account
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Community Forums
283: Downloads
284: Photo Gallery
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Member Screenshots
289: Member Screenshots
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Downloads
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Photo Gallery
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Photo Gallery
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Photo Gallery
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Statistics
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Photo Gallery
333: Your Account
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Community Forums
342: Downloads
343: Photo Gallery
344: Photo Gallery
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Home
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Photo Gallery
354: Downloads
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Photo Gallery
360: Community Forums
361: Home
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Downloads
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Photo Gallery
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Home
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Photo Gallery
384: Community Forums
385: Your Account
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Home
391: Photo Gallery
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Home
396: Community Forums
397: Member Screenshots
398: Your Account
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Downloads
406: Downloads
407: Photo Gallery
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: CPGlang
421: Community Forums
422: Photo Gallery
423: Photo Gallery
424: Community Forums
425: Photo Gallery
426: Home
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: CPGlang
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Photo Gallery
446: Home
447: Your Account
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: CPGlang
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Statistics
465: Community Forums
466: Photo Gallery
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Photo Gallery
471: Downloads
472: Community Forums
473: News Archive
474: Community Forums
475: Photo Gallery
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Your Account
479: Home
480: Community Forums
481: Statistics
482: Photo Gallery
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Photo Gallery
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Member Screenshots
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Photo Gallery
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Photo Gallery
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: News
521: Downloads
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Member Screenshots
525: Photo Gallery
526: Photo Gallery
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Treasury
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Community Forums
533: Home
534: Photo Gallery
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Member Screenshots
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Photo Gallery
548: News Archive
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Downloads
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Home
560: CPGlang
561: Community Forums
562: Home
563: News
564: Your Account
565: Home
566: Home
567: Statistics
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Photo Gallery
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Home
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Statistics
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Home
584: Community Forums
585: Home
586: Photo Gallery
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Photo Gallery
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: CPGlang
600: Photo Gallery
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Community Forums
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Photo Gallery
614: Photo Gallery
615: Community Forums
616: Photo Gallery
617: News
618: Community Forums
619: Downloads
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Downloads
624: Home
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Army
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:21 pm
Post subject: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Army

4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Army


(Source: US Army; issued June 6, 2006)

Interesting little anecdote for poeple - apart from the fact the M113 gets called "a self-propelled Russian anti-aircraft tank" !!! Shocked THIS from a US Army announcement! Rolling Eyes

MUQDADIYAH, Iraq --- What began as a way to alleviate mechanics’ boredom between jobs has turned into a chance to enhance the combat capabilities of the fledgling Iraqi Army in northern Iraq.

Mechanics supporting the 4th Infantry Division's A Battery, 3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery, part of Task Force Band of Brothers, have used their downtime to restore both American and Russian-made vehicles for use by the Iraqi army.

The rebuilt vehicles were salvaged from a lot on Forward Operating Base Normandy called the "bone yard,� where many of the vehicles had been abandoned since the end of the Iran-Iraq War in 1988.

“We were bored,� said Sgt. Michael Mulalley, the maintenance shop foreman. “Not many people in the Army have even used a 109A6 howitzer – let alone worked on them – since they’ve been out of the Army system for 20 to 30 years.�

The American-made howitzers – basically artillery cannons mounted on tank bodies – were used by the Iranians during the eight-year conflict. Most were abandoned by the Iranians and captured by Iraqi forces, and many still bore Iranian markings.

Mulalley said once his team got the first vehicle running, there was an immediate demand for more by U.S. units wanting to better equip their Iraqi army counterparts.

“Once we were shown how to start one, we tinkered around with a couple of them, and got three of them running,� Mulalley said. “By the time we were done, we had 13 of the 113s (a self-propelled Russian anti-aircraft tank) and three 577s (armored command post carriers) going.�

One of mechanics’ biggest challenges was working without vehicle manuals.

“All of the work we did, we did looking at it from being a mechanic,� said Spc. Antonio Van Dyke, a turret mechanic. “We said, ‘This goes here’ and ‘This needs to be done.’�

With so many vehicles to choose from at the “bone yard�, not all could be fixed. The mechanics used a simple criterion for selecting vehicles to repair.

“We went through and picked out the ones that needed the least work,� said Pfc. Derrick Parizek, a light-wheeled vehicle mechanic. “We put some oil and antifreeze in them, and, if they turned over, we fixed them.�

Van Dyke and Parizek said they salvaged parts from other vehicles on the lot to make the repairs. “Most everything we got for parts came from 'bone yard,’� Van Dyke said.

Capt. Andrew A. Morrison praised the mechanics’ efforts. “It takes a different breed of animal to do the work these guys do, and do it with a smile,� Morrison said. “Your performance in theatre has been extraordinary, and you are making the Iraqi army a more capable force.�

Mulalley said the rebuilt vehicles could be lifesavers for Iraqi Soldiers on patrol. “If they can keep up on these and take them on patrol, it will save them a lot,� Mulalley said. “If they go out and hit an [improvised explosive device] with a 113, it will mess up the 113, but the worst they’re going to get is a headache.�

Before restoring more vehicles, the mechanics are helping keep the newly rejuvenated vehicles up and running. “We’re teaching the Iraqi army to maintain its own vehicles,� Parizek said. “That way, when we do leave, they can maintain them themselves.

“We are mainly focusing on teaching them, rather than doing the work ourselves now.�

-ends-
Back to top
View user's profile
A2_Prius
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 27, 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:06 pm
Post subject: Re: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Ar

Hmmm. Could it be that the M113s mis-identified as "Russian anti-aircraft vehicles" are actually M163s?
Back to top
View user's profile
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:46 pm
Post subject: Re: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Ar

109A6 Howitzer out of the Army inventory 30 years?

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
BryanWilson
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 27

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:50 pm
Post subject: Re: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Ar

I think there has to be some mid-identification of vehicles but an interesting article nonetheless. Would be nice if there were some photos of what they were working on.
Back to top
View user's profile
buglerbilly
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:32 pm
Post subject: Re: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Ar

NOT sure if there is anything here BUT this their official website for Iraq.............including images..........

www.hood.army.mil/4ID/...q_main.asp

I cannot even open the link as it's an MIL suffix link, which basically means I cannot open from my office at least, due to security stops..........even from home I usually have difficulty but not impossible, and only for the Mil suffix.

Regards,

BUG
Back to top
View user's profile
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:11 am
Post subject: Re: 4th ID Mechanics Restore Abandoned Vehicles for Iraqi Army

newsblaze.com/story/20...ories.html

Here's more info. Sounds like the M113 and M577 are correct IDs, captured from Iran during the 9-years War.

The rest of what I can see is just reprints of the same articles.

I suspect that the reporter/PAO got their numbers crossed, between the M109A6 (in current use by the Army) and the M109A1 or A2s that were sold to Iran. If someone knows where to check on what the Iranians got, that would probably clear that up.

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum