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Neil_Baumgardner
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:39 pm
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This was posted on the TankNet forum:
svsm.org/gallery/KubinkaMuseum

Ok, what the heck is this? The Soviet Elefant?

And%20this?%20Looks%20sorta%20like%20a%20Disston%20tank...%20Almost%20has%20to%20be%20a%20modified%20farm%20tractor,%20like%20the%20Disston%20&%20Bob%20Semple... I've%20seen%20most%20of%20them%20before,%20but%20this%20is%20also%20an%20interesting%20SPG: And%20you%20dont%20see%20many%20(if%20any)%20BT-series%20tanks%20around%20anymore: When%20you%20get%20to%20the%20pics%20of%20the%20foreign%20items,%20there%20are%20some%20rather%20amusing%20paint%20shemes%20-%20not%20altogether%20dissimilar%20from%20the%201960s/70s%20APG%20schemes.%20 I%20especially%20liked%20the%20reactive%20armor?%20-%20I%20guess%20thats%20what%20its%20supposed%20to%20be%20-%20M48...%20Whats%20with%20all%20those%20things%20on%20the%20lower%20front%20hull?%20 Or%20the%20mouth%20on%20this%20one: And%20this%20garish%20Korean%20Tiger%20paint%20scheme%20Pershing

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:15 pm
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The third photo is the SU-101 Uralmash.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:31 pm
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neil
we have our garish tanks as well at bovington
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:05 pm
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neil
we have our garish tanks as well at bovington
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Yes, but that one is just the front hull and may be realistic - I'm awaiting some Korean War modeling experts to comment here...

The Kubinka Korea Tiger scheme extends to the upper hull as well as the turret and even the barrel - which I've certainly never heard of...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:38 pm
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Say, does the stubbly-chinned M-48 with the 'reactive armor' not have an M-60 turret on it? I remember when we traded our gas-engined 48s for the diesel-engined 60's, but I do not recall such a hull/turret combo.

Anyone?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:24 pm
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neil
we have our garish tanks as well at bovington
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Maybe it's just the angle, but that tiger looks more surprised than fierce, to me! Not an excellent example of that type of scheme...

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NI "Odessa tank"

This NI (Na Ispug) is on display at the Tank Museum of the Red Army in Kubinka (Russia). It is a replica of one of the military conversions of agricultural tractors done in 1941 during the siege of Odessa.

(source : www.jagdtiger.de)

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This one is the SU-14BR-2

This self propelled gun SU-14BR-2 is on display at the Tank Museum of the Red Army in Kubinka (Russia). This is a single prototype on the basis of the T-28 and T-35 heavy tanks and uses a 152mm B10 naval gun. It was involved in the defense of Moscow 1941/42.

(source : www.jagdtiger.de)

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Photo #1 - SU-14BR-2, one of "Troplex" series self-propelled guns. All "Triplex" have open hull, this exhibit have additional 40-mm armor (added in january 1940).

Photo #2 - it's a modern vision of WWII armored tractors. In fact, it's a tractor with with non-armor steel plates construction, but gun not fake. It's a barrel from ZIS-2 57-mm AT Gun.

Photo #3 - SU-101 Uralmash-1 experimental SP Gun, based on the T-44 construction.

Photo #4 - interesting tank... It's a BT-5 hull with end 30-s modernisation, with BT-2 turret. We have plans to repaint him in future and add typical 1932-38 Red Army armored units markings.

Photo #5 - pray of dilettante. He try to make 1941 style camo, but... Laughing

Photo #6 - Magach 5 with Blazer armor, trophy of 1982 war, present from Syria. In principal, he can be restored in driving condition. And we have plans to repaint him - current color is awful

Photo #7 - M48A3, NVA (North Vietnamese Army) trophy, transfered to USSR in 70-s. Don't know about engine etc, but interior in good condition.

Photo #8 - M46, trophy of chinese volunteers in Korea War, transfered to USSR in 50-s. As i know, captured tank have same paintscheme.

Any question? Smile


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:38 pm
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- the_shadock

This self propelled gun SU-14BR-2 is on display at the Tank Museum of the Red Army in Kubinka (Russia). This is a single prototype on the basis of the T-28 and T-35 heavy tanks and uses a 152mm B10 naval gun. It was involved in the defense of Moscow 1941/42.
Pierre-Olivier


In fact, he use original base, not T-35. Suspension and roadwheels is different.
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BTW work of ours volunteers team in june-july (on the russian only, sorry)
dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=1208
dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=1251
dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=1385
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:43 pm
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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

- Neil_Baumgardner

I especially liked the reactive armor? - I guess thats what its supposed to be - M48... Whats with all those things on the lower front hull?




I think those are mounting lugs for ERA boxes.

Anyone know if that shark mouth M48 came from a US unit or was one of the ARVN vehicles?

Interesting set of photos. Thanks Neal!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:49 pm
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Hi Taranov! Hi Folks!

- Taranov

BTW work of ours volunteers team in june-july


Is that Kubinka?

Looks like the volunteers are doing great work!

Thanks Taranov!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:33 pm
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Is that Kubinka?


Yes. We are work in Kubinka from august 2005. We are not a restoration team, we just remade paintschemes and markings.

One of last projects - Mk.V with early (1920) Red Army markings and 2-tone camo (original camo designer - Rodchenko artist, 1920, it's a first Red Army camo).
Work%20of%20last%20week Add%20markings%20to%20Panzerwerfer%2042 Tire%20spray%20operation%20for%20tyres%20cleaning%20and%20protection%20(on%20the%20photo%20tyre%20of%20SdKfz.250/1%20alt) Add%20numbers%20for%20SdKfz%207 Adden%20sign%20\"To%20the%20glory%20of%20Korobov\"%20on%20the%20Tiger%20II%20barrel Same%20tank,%2062%20years%20ago%20;)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:16 pm
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the nam 48-- looks to be copied after the infamous
"Wild One 4"
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