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Some tanks to identify, stored at Saumur
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As it appears that the links on the first post don't work, here are the pictures I tried to show you :



I can see 5 vehicles on the 2 photos, including an M47 Patton. What are the 4 other vehicles?



The one to the left looks like an M48, or at least an M48 turret on something...





Also this one remains unidentified..



Batignolles-Châtillon 25 t

Some other pics can be seen at this link:
www.chars-francais.net...tillon.htm

The French tried so many cleft turret designs!

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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

[quote="Neil_Baumgardner"]
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I can see 5 vehicles on the 2 photos, including an M47 Patton. What are the 4 other vehicles?


Right to left: Rear end of a Soviet BTR-50
M47 rear hull, front of turret
M48 German (smoke lauchers) missing main gun barrel
The rusty one is a Soviet tracked recovery vehicle.
Vehicle at the very far left, French AMX-30

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Also this one remains unidentified..
Neil


That's not the front end of the AMX-13 light tank which we saw a rear view of in another photo?

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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

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That's not the front end of the AMX-13 light tank which we saw a rear view of in another photo?

Sgt, Scouts Out!


Some accidental misquoting going on... But anyway, nope, AMX-13 has a different front hull - and smaller too.



www.chars-francais.net...x13-75.htm

The hull on this one is much more sharply sloped - and rather Panther-like, which is a fairly common post-war French design element...

Compare:





The Chars Francaise pictures also appear to be from Saumur, albeit earlier, before the paint faded...

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Thanks Don,

more vehicles :




BTW, next to and behind the STRV 74 are indeed two M32s...

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I was thinking that the two M32 stored near the STRV 74 were maybe the Ecouché and the Porthos seen on chars-francais.net..(the photos of both tanks are quite old, so maybe they were repainted..) but the recent photos don't allow to see any marking.

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Any idea what this SPG? (missing the gun) is next to the Batignolles-Châtillon 25 t?



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Right to left: Rear end of a Soviet BTR-50
M47 rear hull, front of turret
M48 German (smoke lauchers) missing main gun barrel
The rusty one is a Soviet tracked recovery vehicle.
Vehicle at the very far left, French AMX-30



BTR-50PU (exact version unsure)
M47
Pionier Panzer M48A2
Type 653 (chinese actually)
Vehicle at the very far left, French AMX-40

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As it appears that the links on the first post don't work, here are the pictures I tried to show you :





Type 653A

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What's the sand painted tank on the middle-right and the small armoured car on the right?


AMX-40 & Ferret Scout Car

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What's this tank hull on the left?


Its the hull of the AMX-VTT Roland

Images of the complete vehicle on the web site.

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What's the big vehicle behind the AMX-13? (the green one, not the BTR-50)


M88A1

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Thanks Don,

more vehicles :



What's this bridgelayer, whom we can only see a bit on the right?

P-O


Check this out...



Edit Note: The M32 is actually an M31 ARV.... my mistake.

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Its surely an AMX 13 poseur de pont (bridgelayer) as used in french army

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Pascal, I had a look at chars-francais.net and found a photo of the AMX-13 Bridgelayer, and so concluded that it is in fact the same tank on the photo. So you're right.

Thanks to all for having identified all these vehicles.

I just sent the France AFVs Register v1.0 to Neil for corrections and additions, and I think it will be released in few days.. Then, if it is absolutely necessary, I will translate it in order to publish a list in French. (In France we are known for having huge difficulties in learning foreign languages..)

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As it appears that the links on the first post don't work, here are the pictures I tried to show you :



Type 69 ARV (Iraqi)





I can see 5 vehicles on the 2 photos, including an M47 Patton. What are the 4 other vehicles? (maybe you should see if it's an M48 or M60 bridge layer.)


Type 69 ARV, M60A0, M48/M60 AVLB, M47 and maybe a BTR-50/OT-62? It has the Soviet style clamshell hydrojet doors.




What's the sand painted tank on the middle-right and the small armoured car on the right?


AMX-40



What's this tank hull on the left?


Some kind of AMX-VCI variant
. Medical transport? Mortar carrier? There are a lot of variants, but I can only find pics of one or two:

* AMX-VTP - Original APC variant armed with open-mount light machine-gun
* AMX-VTT (AMX-VCI) - APC fitted with turret mounted light machine-gun
* AMX-LT - VTT based artillery fire control vehicle
* AMX-PC - VTT based command Post
* AMX-VCA - VTT based 155 mm Support Vehicle designed to accompany the Mk F3 SPH
* AMX-VCG - Combat engineer version
* AMX-VCI 12.7 - Version with 50 calibre (12.7 mm) HMG used by France and the Netherlands
* AMX-VCI M-56 - Fitted with Canon de 20 mm
* AMX-VCPM de 81 - VTT based 81 mm Mortar Carrier
* AMX-VCPM de 120 - VTT based 120 mm Mortar Carrier
* AMX-VCTB (Vehicule Chenillé Transport Blessés) - VTT based Ambulance
* AMX-VTT avec tourelle NA2 - Fitted with ATGM launcher
* AMX-VTT ROLAND - Roland SPAAML
* AMX-VTT Version 1987 - Modernised version with all the tank automotive improvements
* AMX-VTT with Minotaur Mine System - Minotaur scatterable mine-laying system fitted on rear
* AMX-13 RATAC - VTT based RATAC ground surveillance radar vehicle
* AMX DOZER - bulldozer blade equipped version
* AMX-13 VCPC - Argentinian Army version of the AMX-13 VCI
* AMX-13 mod.56 VCI - Belgian Army version with a .30 Browning mounted in a CALF38 turret.
* AMX-13 mod.56 [81 mm mortar carrier] - Belgian Army version
* AMX-13 mod.56 [command post] - Belgian Army version
* AMX-13 mod.56 [ENTAC atgm] - Belgian Army version with rear-mounted ENTAC missile launcher
* AMX-13 mod.56 [cargo] - Belgian Army version
* AMX-VTT TOW - Dutch Army version with TOW launcher on cupola
* AMX-GWT (GeWonden Transport) - Dutch army version of the VCTB




Also this one remains unidentified..


Somua SM? www.chars-francais.net...mua_sm.htm




What's the big vehicle behind the AMX-13? (the green one, not the BTR-50)



M88 ARV. Probably an M88A1
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:19 am
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Thanks Don,

more vehicles :




BTW, next to and behind the STRV 74 are indeed two M32s...

Neil


Aren't those actually M74s?

Cheers,

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