±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 695
Total: 695
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Member Screenshots
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Your Account
22: Photo Gallery
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Downloads
31: Downloads
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Downloads
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Your Account
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Home
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Member Screenshots
61: Downloads
62: Community Forums
63: CPGlang
64: Your Account
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Downloads
70: Downloads
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Member Screenshots
75: Member Screenshots
76: Home
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Photo Gallery
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Photo Gallery
85: CPGlang
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Home
119: Photo Gallery
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Photo Gallery
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: CPGlang
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: CPGlang
139: Your Account
140: Community Forums
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Photo Gallery
147: Your Account
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Downloads
151: Photo Gallery
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Member Screenshots
155: Community Forums
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Member Screenshots
163: Community Forums
164: Member Screenshots
165: Home
166: Photo Gallery
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Your Account
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Photo Gallery
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: CPGlang
207: Community Forums
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Downloads
226: Home
227: Community Forums
228: Your Account
229: Your Account
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Community Forums
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Photo Gallery
238: Community Forums
239: Photo Gallery
240: Downloads
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Your Account
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Community Forums
250: Member Screenshots
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Home
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Your Account
265: Community Forums
266: Photo Gallery
267: Community Forums
268: Downloads
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Statistics
294: Home
295: Home
296: Community Forums
297: Home
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Photo Gallery
304: Home
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Home
309: Photo Gallery
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Downloads
324: Photo Gallery
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Home
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: CPGlang
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Home
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: CPGlang
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Downloads
362: Community Forums
363: Photo Gallery
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Home
383: Photo Gallery
384: Photo Gallery
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Your Account
394: Community Forums
395: Photo Gallery
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Home
399: Community Forums
400: Statistics
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Photo Gallery
406: Community Forums
407: Downloads
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: CPGlang
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Home
418: Downloads
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Photo Gallery
422: Community Forums
423: Statistics
424: Community Forums
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Photo Gallery
430: Photo Gallery
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Downloads
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: CPGlang
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Member Screenshots
446: Photo Gallery
447: Your Account
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Downloads
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Downloads
455: Photo Gallery
456: CPGlang
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: CPGlang
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Your Account
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Downloads
475: Community Forums
476: Home
477: Community Forums
478: CPGlang
479: Photo Gallery
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Photo Gallery
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Home
490: Home
491: Your Account
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: News Archive
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Downloads
510: Photo Gallery
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: CPGlang
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Your Account
519: Photo Gallery
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Photo Gallery
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Home
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Photo Gallery
546: Member Screenshots
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Your Account
551: CPGlang
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Home
555: Downloads
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Home
563: Downloads
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Home
567: Downloads
568: Photo Gallery
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Photo Gallery
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Home
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Your Account
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Downloads
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: CPGlang
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Photo Gallery
599: Photo Gallery
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Photo Gallery
605: Downloads
606: Community Forums
607: Photo Gallery
608: Community Forums
609: Home
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Community Forums
619: Home
620: Community Forums
621: Home
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Downloads
630: Community Forums
631: CPGlang
632: Photo Gallery
633: Your Account
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Photo Gallery
639: Community Forums
640: Photo Gallery
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Photo Gallery
644: CPGlang
645: Community Forums
646: Downloads
647: Community Forums
648: Photo Gallery
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Downloads
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Member Screenshots
660: Home
661: Downloads
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Your Account
667: Search
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Photo Gallery
671: Photo Gallery
672: Community Forums
673: Community Forums
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Home
677: Community Forums
678: News Archive
679: Community Forums
680: Home
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Photo Gallery
685: Your Account
686: Photo Gallery
687: Community Forums
688: Photo Gallery
689: Community Forums
690: Home
691: Community Forums
692: Photo Gallery
693: Home
694: Community Forums
695: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

- Taranov

SP-6 paint stripper + angle sander vs. 70 years old paint (2 mm thickness).


If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
FJCabeza
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 09, 2007
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

Or at least that some kind of record could have been kept... Crying or Very sad Just like they did with Bovington´s Tiger I.
Are you going to apply the same treatment to German vehicles?
If so could you please record things like base colour, cammo schemes and interior colours as they appear under the paint layers? Some pictures would be nice too...
Back to top
View user's profile
Jim_Coles
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 56

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

Taranov - Thanks for sharing.
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:32 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

- the_shadock

If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..
P-O


We paint tank in one of RAL colors, simitar to 4BO. Sand Yellow simitar to 6K, Brown to 7K soviet colors. When we are remove paint layers from TT-26, we found clean original color, very simitar to RAL.

BTW, original markings of TT-26 prototype:
Back to top
View user's profile
Polar
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 27, 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Poland
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
FJCabeza
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 09, 2007
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:26 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

- Taranov
- the_shadock

If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..
P-O


We paint tank in one of RAL colors, simitar to 4BO. Sand Yellow simitar to 6K, Brown to 7K soviet colors. When we are remove paint layers from TT-26, we found clean original color, very simitar to RAL.

BTW, original markings of TT-26 prototype:


Looks like you´re doing your best, thank for your pictures but don´t forget that every bit of info that is lost now, could be very important in a non distant future...
May I suggest you to preserve paint chips of the original paint layers? Just like a reference Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:05 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

- Polar
Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?


Right now no. He is in not bad condition, missed small details like Hotckiss WZ.25 mount.
BTW any refs of original WP armour colors can be useful. We have plans to repaint TKS in original colors. Also we have plans of 37M Ansaldo repaint - current paintscheme is awful (italian desert paintscheme on the hungarian tankette looks strange Laughing )
Back to top
View user's profile
Polar
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 27, 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Poland
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:11 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

- Taranov
- Polar
Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?


Right now no. He is in not bad condition, missed small details like Hotckiss WZ.25 mount.
BTW any refs of original WP armour colors can be useful. We have plans to repaint TKS in original colors. Also we have plans of 37M Ansaldo repaint - current paintscheme is awful (italian desert paintscheme on the hungarian tankette looks strange Laughing )


derela.republika.pl/tk_con.htm
I don't know did this web is enought but I think that contact with webmaster could be interesting if you want repaint TKS.

And small gallery TKS preserved in Poland
derela.republika.pl/tks_gal.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Scott_Taylor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 80
Location: London, Ontario
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:51 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

Hello Taranov:

I have a favour to ask about one of the tanks in Kubinka's collection - the M4A2(76)HVSS. Could you please contact me offline at scot4944 @ rogers.com?

Cheers and thanks,

Scott Taylor
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

- Scott_Taylor
Hello Taranov:

I have a favour to ask about one of the tanks in Kubinka's collection - the M4A2(76)HVSS. Could you please contact me offline at scot4944 @ rogers.com?

Cheers and thanks,

Scott Taylor


Use private messages system Wink
In Kubinka preserved two M4 Medium Tanks - M4A4 (few tanks arrived for tests, not used in Red Army) and M4A2E8 76(W).
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

Some progress shots
We start new project - VCL M.1931 tank. Initial idea - 4-tone camo, like on the chinese tanks, but under paint layers we found Red Army markings:




My reconstruction of original Kubinka's VCL M.1931 markings. Maybe he used in Red Army first.

Cleaned parts - markings on every detail Shocked


Front side cleaning is finished (5 hours non-stop cleaning with angle sander, hands "little" tired...)


BTW anyone know, where serial number of this VCL M.1931 is located?
Back to top
View user's profile
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

Back to TKS
On this week AFVs in hangar #7 (France, Hungary, Japan etc) prepared for repaint (not ours repaint team, it's work of museum members for tankman's day, we are only help with paintschemes and markings). Now TKS front plate and data plate on back side armor plate is cleaned:



Need help of polish community. Can be very nice to know history of this TKS. Number of regiment where he is used, history of regiment etc.
Back to top
View user's profile
Polar
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 27, 2006
Posts: 96
Location: Poland
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubi

I post your photo on few polish forum about ww2 and tanks. Mayby some guys could answer for this question.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:27 am
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

Some news

News #1 - unofficial data of opening - 6-th september
News #2 - we found serial number of hungarian 37M Ansaldo tankette. H-153. In fact, some years ago original paint has been removed, only on the front armor plate preserved original colors and markings (i think, soldiers been too lazy for paint removing from this plate). Interesting - simitar number (H-151) have captured 37M Ansaldo tankette in Budapest, winter 1944-45. Maybe Kubinka's 37M also from Budapest.
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?

Hello Taranov, How is October 12 though 14th looking for the museum being open to the public?? Those are the dates I will be there, will we get to meet you??
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 4
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum