±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: freaknikz
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6598

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 80
Total: 80
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Photo Gallery
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Home
31: Home
32: Downloads
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Photo Gallery
41: News
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Your Account
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Photo Gallery
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Member Screenshots
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:46 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

Just a few thoughts:

Perhaps the 'roller tool' marks might have been worn off or covered due to adverse environmental affects, multiple layers of paint, and / or too much blasting (bead/sand) during a restoration. Heavy coated primer & paint would obscure those marks, if applied too heavily.

The fact that they are seen on the APG vehicle, is proof of a carefully completed, quality renovation.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
palic
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 172

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:20 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

Topical piece of intel: conversion of this vehicle (original LT-35, CZ Army registration 13.962) from Pz.Kpfw 35(t) to Mörserzugmittel 35(t) was done in 1942.
I found and have examined pics of "fresh-from-the factory" Mörserzugmittel 35(t) and can say they are close enough to show there were no visible "indentations" on the surface of fresh vehicle... At least there are no such indentations on hull roof armour plate.

How should I understand these words written earlier by bsmart: There are similar marks on many of the vehicles at Aberdeen. They show upon older vehicles like the LT-35 and newer ones like the Jagdpz Kanone. They show upon many nationality vehicles. They show upoften near plate edges and opebnings that were made in the metal. I've wondered if they were the result of some type of impact device that measures the surface hardness of the armor.

Are those indentations seen not only on vehicles of Czechoslovak or (later) Protectorate Böhmen und Mähren origin???
Back to top
View user's profile
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

just a wild thought, might they be caused by "Splash" from the cutting or welding process?
Piney
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Jared
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Posts: 57
Location: Wherever the army sends me
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:53 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

There was a conversation about this a few years ago - its caused by the face-hardening process of the armour plate.

_________________
Inevitably Jared
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 26, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:14 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

- palic
Have checked our sources - result is here:

Build number 10112, see the picture here: www.rozhlas.cz/_obraze...88953.jpeg
Produced by CKD Prague
Original Czechoslovak military registration: 13.962 (white on black)
Delivered to CZ Army in 1937, after occupation this vehicle minus its turret continued in service with German Wehrmacht as a Mörsezugmittel 35(t)...

After some non specified damage this vehicle was sent to Skoda Pilsen for repair and remained there till the liberation of Czechoslovakia.
After liberation this vehicle was equipped with turret and repaired on request of US HQ and shipped to USA for tests of pneumatic steering system...


Hello Palic,

information included in the most recent updates of "modified and captured foreign vehicles" PDF file. Thanks for your researches.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 03, 2006
Posts: 342
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

2 Dontos:

VCL M1931 rear hull plate:
Panzer%20II%20F%20upper%20front%20hull%20plate: Little%20shocked%20after%20Panzer%20II%20F%20paint%20cleaning.%20More%20looks%20like%20orks-made%20armor%20plates.%20And%20it's%20not%20a%20single%20defect%20-%20different%20armor%20plates%20of%20this%20tank%20almost%20same. And%20for%20Pierre%20-%20serial%20number%20of%20Kubinka%20Panzer%20II%20F:
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 26, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:18 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

Hello Taranov,

thanks for the Panzer II F serial number. How should this be read?
I guess that the SN is 28384 (or is this a hull number?) and the ordnance code is CXT, right?

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 03, 2006
Posts: 342
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:33 am
Post subject: Re: Aberdeen PzKpfw 35(t) going back home

I think, 28 - Pz II F hull code, 384 - hull number. cxf - ordnance code. Interesting, what factory have cxf (or dxf) code.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum