±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 603
Total: 603
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: News
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Downloads
18: Community Forums
19: Member Screenshots
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Downloads
24: Photo Gallery
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Downloads
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Your Account
41: Downloads
42: Community Forums
43: Photo Gallery
44: Home
45: Downloads
46: Community Forums
47: Photo Gallery
48: Downloads
49: Downloads
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Your Account
53: Home
54: Downloads
55: Photo Gallery
56: Photo Gallery
57: CPGlang
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Downloads
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Photo Gallery
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Downloads
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Downloads
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Your Account
87: Downloads
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Your Account
91: Community Forums
92: Your Account
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Your Account
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Home
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Photo Gallery
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: News Archive
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Community Forums
137: Downloads
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Photo Gallery
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Community Forums
153: Your Account
154: Community Forums
155: Photo Gallery
156: Home
157: Photo Gallery
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Downloads
161: Photo Gallery
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Your Account
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Downloads
169: Community Forums
170: Photo Gallery
171: Home
172: Community Forums
173: CPGlang
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Photo Gallery
190: Home
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Downloads
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Downloads
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Photo Gallery
204: Community Forums
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Photo Gallery
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Downloads
217: Home
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Home
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Downloads
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Home
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Photo Gallery
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Home
247: Statistics
248: Photo Gallery
249: Member Screenshots
250: Statistics
251: Community Forums
252: Downloads
253: Home
254: Photo Gallery
255: Home
256: Photo Gallery
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Member Screenshots
265: CPGlang
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Photo Gallery
273: Home
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Photo Gallery
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Photo Gallery
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Member Screenshots
294: Community Forums
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Photo Gallery
308: Community Forums
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Home
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Downloads
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Photo Gallery
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Home
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Photo Gallery
338: Community Forums
339: Your Account
340: Home
341: Your Account
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: News
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: CPGlang
359: Community Forums
360: Photo Gallery
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Member Screenshots
370: Photo Gallery
371: Community Forums
372: Home
373: CPGlang
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Photo Gallery
380: Photo Gallery
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: CPGlang
397: Community Forums
398: Home
399: Community Forums
400: Photo Gallery
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Home
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Home
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Downloads
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Statistics
421: Community Forums
422: Downloads
423: Photo Gallery
424: Home
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Downloads
428: News
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Home
436: Home
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: CPGlang
448: Photo Gallery
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Statistics
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Photo Gallery
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Photo Gallery
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Photo Gallery
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Home
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Photo Gallery
477: Community Forums
478: Photo Gallery
479: Home
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Community Forums
483: Downloads
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Photo Gallery
487: Community Forums
488: Home
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Photo Gallery
494: Home
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: Home
500: Member Screenshots
501: Community Forums
502: Home
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Community Forums
510: Photo Gallery
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Home
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Downloads
522: Home
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Home
531: Downloads
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Statistics
535: Downloads
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Member Screenshots
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Photo Gallery
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Photo Gallery
547: Home
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Photo Gallery
552: Home
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Home
558: Community Forums
559: CPGlang
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Member Screenshots
571: Home
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Photo Gallery
577: Downloads
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Member Screenshots
587: Your Account
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: News
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Home
602: Photo Gallery
603: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Tank ID 1940
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

It was the short-lived "Pentomic" division structure that had Battle Groups of five battalions, but one thinks that the bumper code should have a division number then the BG number, but somebody may have thought that it took too much effort and shortened it to "1st Battle Group, 66th AR".

Still an neat photo that shows the use of the "arm" for an external MG mount on the cupola. The mounting pad for the arm is why there are square pads on the sides of early cupolas and the external mount is why early M60 turrets had stowage brackets for .50 cals on the rear. The use of an M1919A4 is interesting. Maybe they needed to shoot blanks for a maneuver or demo - the .30 caliber was much easier for blank firing than the .50 cal.

Gary B.
Back to top
View user's profile
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

On the "snub nosed" .50 caliber. We are all used to seeing the common 45-inch Heavy Barrel on ground .50s, but there was a 36-inch barrel according to some sources. I though t that the 36-inch barrel was for the aircraft version, but was there also a 36-inch heavy barrel? I know the cavalry had shorter .30 caliber guns (M1919A2) for horse packing, did they also have some shorter barrel .50 caliber weapons?

Gary B.
Back to top
View user's profile
RKlaus
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 28, 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

On the original photo:
The short barreled .50 is a stumper, don't know that I've ever seen one quite like that. The blank firing barrel idea does make sense.

Note also the .30 calibre barrel from the right hand turret, it looks normal, with no BFD.

I also note that the tank is named. On the forward diagonal hull plate you can make out the name "WILLIAMS" and traces of an insignia.

Interesting photo, thanks for posting.

Robert
Back to top
View user's profile
Chris_C
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 214
Location: WV, USA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:35 am
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

- toadmanstankpictures
- Doug_Kibbey
- MarkHolloway
I've been looking at the 'snub nose' .50 cal. What the heck is it?


Definitely a .50 reciever/barrel combination, but I've never seen a snubby like that.

That cavalry plaque on the turret side looks way too ornate for a typical service vehicle. I'd guess this is some kind of sale-of-concept image for army in-house use or as a proposal from a vendor.

Somebody here is selling something. Either that, or this is some extremely vain senior officer's vehicle.

It's actually a M1 or M1A1 Combat Car. The cavalry plaque was a standard fit during the inter-war period. Tanks belonging to the infantry had plaques with crossed rifles.


It's a combat car M1. The first 58 of these were fitted with a flat-faced, D-shaped turret. The remainder (and all combat cars M1A1) were fitted with an octagonal turret.

The shorter MG barrel may have been standard. Compare the left-hand gun in this combat car M1:


...with the one in this combat car M1A1:
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

I looked at my 1940 TM for the M1 and M2 series tanks and the short cal. .50 barrel is certainly standard. In the M2 MG TM of the same era it refers to the 36-inch barrel as "old type" and the 45-inch barrel as "new type".

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

Mystery solved,

Thanks Kurt

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
MarkHolloway
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Beatty, Nevada
PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Tank ID 1940

- Kurt_Laughlin
I looked at my 1940 TM for the M1 and M2 series tanks and the short cal. .50 barrel is certainly standard. In the M2 MG TM of the same era it refers to the 36-inch barrel as "old type" and the 45-inch barrel as "new type".

KL

Thanks. I'm always learning new stuff here!

_________________
"TUMBLEWEED"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum