±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 582
Total: 582
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Your Account
06: Photo Gallery
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Home
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Member Screenshots
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Your Account
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: News
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Your Account
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Your Account
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: News
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Downloads
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Home
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: Photo Gallery
131: Community Forums
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Home
136: Home
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Your Account
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Downloads
154: Community Forums
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: CPGlang
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Member Screenshots
161: Photo Gallery
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Photo Gallery
168: Photo Gallery
169: Community Forums
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Community Forums
174: Downloads
175: Community Forums
176: News Archive
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: CPGlang
187: Community Forums
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: CPGlang
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: Photo Gallery
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Downloads
202: Search
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Home
206: Statistics
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Photo Gallery
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Photo Gallery
213: Community Forums
214: Home
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Member Screenshots
227: Community Forums
228: Home
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Photo Gallery
232: Community Forums
233: Downloads
234: Your Account
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Statistics
248: Statistics
249: Photo Gallery
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: CPGlang
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Your Account
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: News Archive
266: Community Forums
267: Photo Gallery
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Home
271: Home
272: Member Screenshots
273: Photo Gallery
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: CPGlang
285: Community Forums
286: Home
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Community Forums
295: Downloads
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Statistics
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Member Screenshots
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Downloads
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Photo Gallery
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: News
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Home
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Photo Gallery
344: Community Forums
345: Member Screenshots
346: Photo Gallery
347: Photo Gallery
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Downloads
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Home
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Home
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Member Screenshots
375: Photo Gallery
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Downloads
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Photo Gallery
389: Home
390: Downloads
391: Home
392: Your Account
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Photo Gallery
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Downloads
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Photo Gallery
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Downloads
416: Community Forums
417: Photo Gallery
418: Community Forums
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Photo Gallery
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Photo Gallery
427: News Archive
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Home
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Photo Gallery
438: Home
439: Photo Gallery
440: Home
441: Community Forums
442: Your Account
443: Community Forums
444: Photo Gallery
445: Downloads
446: Statistics
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Your Account
451: Community Forums
452: Home
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Home
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Home
462: Photo Gallery
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Member Screenshots
467: Photo Gallery
468: Home
469: Downloads
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Home
473: Community Forums
474: Statistics
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Photo Gallery
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Downloads
482: Photo Gallery
483: Photo Gallery
484: Home
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Photo Gallery
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Downloads
491: Community Forums
492: Member Screenshots
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Photo Gallery
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Photo Gallery
506: Photo Gallery
507: Home
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Home
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Home
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Photo Gallery
522: Community Forums
523: Photo Gallery
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: CPGlang
536: Downloads
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Home
544: Community Forums
545: Photo Gallery
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Home
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Home
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Home
559: Home
560: Community Forums
561: Downloads
562: Community Forums
563: Home
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Photo Gallery
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Your Account
571: Photo Gallery
572: Community Forums
573: Your Account
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Home
577: Photo Gallery
578: Downloads
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Downloads

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:27 pm
Post subject: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

Theres been a lot of talk on this tank back in 2003/04 when captured & then brought to Ft Knox.

I figured I'd revisit it, to see if I could get some good detail photos.

Entry was made thru the BOG Hatch:


Both hatches are frozen open. Here is the Drivers Hatch Cast Numbers:


Interior is trashed. Some parts are gone, but a surprize,.....The Original Data Plate (?) is present:


Here is the exterior Hull Cast Numbers:


Center Stamped Transmission housing SN:


Left Front Transmission SN:


Stamped SN on the right front slope area of tank:


Enjoy
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:04 pm
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

She's come a long way since when I came across her and took this picture,

Kuwait, between Camp New York and Camp New Jersey

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
panamadan
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 174

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:37 pm
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

My buddy has some pics of it when he was overseas. Is this the only 105 that was found, or are there more?
Dan
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:04 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

I believe it is the only one discovered.

It was moved from its initial discovery location 'hidden' under a highway underpass, to I believe 2 locations in Iraq and then to Kuwait.

I remember alot was made of the vehicle and it eventually made its way here. Unfortunately all the original Iranian markings were painted over, prior to it being shipped to the U.S.

It is my understanding that it was sent here by CMH so that we could cosmetically restore it and then it was to go to another museum. I'm not really sure who gave anyone the impression that the huge amount of work needed could ( or would) have been carried out here, during those 'pre-BRAC' days we (the volunteers) were hard pressed to keep the 'fleet' of operationally restored vehicles maintained on a budget that barely paid for the toilet paper in the museums restrooms.

It was always a source of extreme pride amoung the volunteers to 'field' and 'crew' the large number of 'runners'. Those were awesome times.......

Oppps, sorta got off topic there.....sorry

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:14 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

The differential housing (marked S66066) came off a Fisher tank - they were the only ones to mark differentials that way. In fact, 66066 was an M4A3(75)W HVSS. I don't think any of these survive, having all been turned into 76mm tanks.

The 4909/6543 marking corresponds to the serial and heat lot of the casting. I'm guessing 4909 is what is cast in the part.

The CP stampings are hull assembly markings. The consensus is that "CP" indicates Chrysler-Plymouth. Chrysler stamped their build numbers on the edge of the glacis plate, on the right, aligned with the lift lug. It's very difficult to see without "excavation".

i75.photobucket.com/al...0_2435.jpg

I was digging through my files and found a reference to that tank as SN 72912. Any chance that's what it might be?

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:47 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

Kurt

I didn't have the time to get the SN conformation off the tow lugs. The SN is present but obscured. I did take photos, but they are less than desirable. I'll try some cleaning up and get the lug SN.

The data plate needs a little scratch pad scrubbing to get a real good read. I'll get that on next visit. The SN was imprinted on the shipping label so I began with that SN in mind. The data plate 'seems' to verify that, but could be what you have.

With that said, I did find some 'weird' stampings on the left side frontal area, while trying to find the production sequence stamps.





BTW: Here is the Gun Mantle Cast SN:


The tank was tarped, and I really didn't have time to untarp it and do a full photo shoot. I plan to 'revisit' the revisit.

The tank shows numerous signs of getting shot up. Some are recent, but some are most likely the cause of it being captured by the Iraqis during the Iran / Iraq war.

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:04 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

Don, you are an amazing resource.



KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:33 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

I think I may have posted these before, taken at Udari Range summer 2004, she almost became a target at the Kuwaiti Gunnery School








Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
binder001
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 363

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:27 am
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

Well, it does have the "lip" at the base of the commander's cupola.

Don, does it have a "W" inside a "C" on the rear of the turret?

Gary
Back to top
View user's profile
JG300-Ascout
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 05, 2005
Posts: 6257
Location: Cyberspace
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:41 pm
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

- Kurt_Laughlin
Don, you are an amazing resource.



KL


In addition to being the living conscience of "the museum that was".

_________________
"All facts go to clearly prove that Shades is a thrice-cursed traitor & mentally deranged person steeped in inveterate enmity toward mankind"
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:02 pm
Post subject: Re: M4A3 (105) HVSS (Captured OIF 1)

I am humbled... Thank you.

However I have a more realistic view.

So much work, so little time to get it done......

Regards
Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum