#16: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: L.Delsing, Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:54 pm ---- Interesting, two Leopard 1Vs. I did know of one at Maaldrift, and another at Heesch of which this last I didn't know if it was property of the Delft museum. It seems I have to convince my boss that I have some business to do in the Amersfoort/Soesterberg area. At Soesterberg the vehicles are located in the old helicopter hangars on the Dutch side of the base. At the former US side only some aircraft from the air force museum are stored
Regards,
Lesley
P.S. Next week I'am at the Bergen (DEU) training area, if it is possible I will take some photos.
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#17: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:40 pm ---- Hi Lesley,
would you also be interrested in an copy of the NLD AFV Reg??
I could use youre help sorting the original list Neil posted.
Michel
#18: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:01 am ---- News flash
Lesly and P-O got an first copy of the NL register
Michel
#19: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:31 am ---- When working through the various lists I found something curious
Apparently there are 2 types of M4 Sherman tanks that have identical painted on vehicle numbers
Now people may say, that could happen because they are painted on
Agreed, however both tanks are in the same museum
At the Cavalry Museum at Amersfoort they have an M4A3(105) Sherman
Vehicle number: 30126810
However they also have an M4A1(76)W E8 Sherman
Also vehicle number: 30126810
They are not directly in line of sigth of each other because there is an building in between, but the distance will only be about 400meters
Michel
#20: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: bialy-r, Location: POLANDPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:17 am ---- For Netherlands AFV Registers this link my help:
The register of DAF YP408, it have many DAF APC in Netherlands.
If you Michel or any one beside you have good photos of DAF YP408, could you posted them (I want to create a register of them).
#21: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:12 am ---- Hi Bialy
Thanks for the link
Concerning the photo's I can get you picture's of the YP-408 at the following museum locations
- 4 at Harskamp
- 1 at Overloon
- 1 at Amersfoort
- 1 at Soesterberg
Michel
#22: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: bialy-r, Location: POLANDPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:15 am ---- That would be great.
#23: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:42 pm ---- Bialy and others,
the famous Dutch DAF YP-408
DAF YP-408 PWI-S GR KN-75-54-2009
DAF YP-408-PW-CO KN-88-91_Overloon-2008
DAF YP-408-PWGWT KN-87-17_Harskamp-2009
Bialy, before you start using this 3 picture's for the register
On the link below you can go to the Photoshop album YP-408
There you will find all 6 different YP-408 I mentioned earlier
The name of the picture's posted above all start with S-DAF... s-meaning small (500xn)
You could find the same picture's bigger in size sarting without s-.. (1200xn)
Michel
#24: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:46 pm ---- Hi folks,
about the different type's of the DAF YP-408, in total there where 8 different versions
The short PW or PantserWiel in English would be Armored wheeled
The other letters designate the type of use
YP408 PWI-S GR = PantserWiel Infanterie Standaard Groep = standard infantry section, crew of 3 with 9 infantry
YP408 PWI-S PC = PantserWiel Infanterie Standaard PelotonsCommandant = platoon commander, vehicle has additional radio's
YP408 PWCO = PantserWiel COmpagniescommandant = company commander
YP408 PW-GWT = PantserWiel GeWondenTransport = wounded transport
YP408 PW-V = PantserWiel Vracht = cargo
YP408 PW-MT aka YP408 PW-MR = PantserWiel MortierTrekker = towing of mortar
YP408 PWAT (TOW) = PantserWiel Anti Tank = anti-tank missile TOW
YP408 PW-RDR = PantserWiel RADAR = vehicle with doppler radar
Michel
#25: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, FrancePosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:38 pm ---- here are some additional information :
Schaarsbergen
Arnhem War Museum 40-45, Kemperbergerweg (N 52 1.602, E 5 52.304)
M4 Sherman US out It is an M4A4, serial number 21169, original (factory) registration number 3021475. The M4(75) turret is beside the tank
T34/85 USSR out There are also an M16 Half-Track MGMCand a T17E1 Staghound Armored Car with the running gear missing, but with the turret. You can add them in the register.
Oosterbeek
Airborne museum, Utrechtseweg (N 51 59.293, E 5 49.967)
M4A4 Sherman US out SN 5964, original RN 3057774
Best
Museum Bevrijdende Vleugels, Sonseweg (N 51 30.913, E 5 26.389)
M4A1(76)W Sherman US out sn 30419403
M4A1(76)W E8 HVSS US out
Panzer 61 MBT CHE out
T-34/85 MBT There is also a G13 Hetzer there
P-O
#26: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, FrancePosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:29 pm ---- Overloon
Liberty Park, Museumpark 1 (N 51 34.206, E 5 57.197)
[b]the Sexton, the second M3A1 Scout Car, the BRDM-2, the T17E1 Straghound hull and the 3 M29 Weasels (including 1 M29C) are missing in the list. You can also add the M25 Dragon Wagon. thye GT-SM (Gaz-71), the M4 HST, M5 HST and M6 HST (as fully tracked vehicles).
P-O
#27: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:00 am ---- P-O,
thanks for the additional vehicle's.
However this list leaves me with an question.
The M25 has armour and is armed, so technically can be on the list.
However the high speed tractor's M4-M5-M6, should they be on the list?
Maybe I am wrong, because in my opinion they are not real AFV's.
I placed them in the category of truck's.
Something like an deuce and a half with an MG on the cabin, only tracked
If the general opinion is that they should be on the list, no problem
Let me know
Michel
#28: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, FrancePosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:47 am ---- Michel,
if you look to other AFVs registers, both M25 Dragon Wagon, M4/M5/M6 HSTs and even M29 Weasels are listed.
P-O
#29: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: Michel_Krauss, Location: Zuid-Holland, The NetherlandsPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:50 pm ---- Hi P-O
then I will put them in the list.
I also would like to ad then an M29 Weasel of the museum Wings of Liberation at Best.
Regards,
Michel
#30: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers Author: bialy-r, Location: POLANDPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:21 pm ---- I'm looking for AMX Mk 61 Self Propelled Howitzer in Netherlands. Michel do you know any?