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#136: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: the_shadockLocation: Normandy, France PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:05 am
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- TrevorLarkum
I'm mostly after serial numbers, e.g.
UID 1711: M4 on trailer - might need some creative work with a camera on a pole!
UID 1709: M4A2 (105)
UID 1710: M4A3 (105)
UID 1716: M32
UID 1718: M48 AVLB
UID 1721: T-34
UID 1722: T-55
UID 1705: Sexton (usually on rear hull just below starting handle hole)

Any pictures of the M4A1 outside would also be good.

Anything you get is appreciated!


I've found the Serial Number of the M4A4 on the trailer, it is SN 5657 :


There is no M4A2(105), both are M4A3(105). Note that I don't think that any M4A2 was built with a 105mm howitzer, only M4 and M4A3.
During my last visit in September 2011, I've tried to find the SN on all of the Shermans, but I was only able to find it on the M4A4 on the trailer, the M4A4 Crab (SN 5230), the Baldwin M4 75mm (SN 15499) and that's it.

The M48 AVBL could have the SN 4450, but I'm not 100% sure.

One has to scratch the paint on the rear tow lugs of the M32B2, because I've seen traces of the serial but they can't be read with all the paint currently on them..

If you try to look on some of the M4A3(105) Sherman tow lugs, there is some grease on some of them, and one has to be careful..

P-O

#137: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:47 am
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Based on P-O observations I've updated the to-do list:

Serial numbers:

UID 1718: M48 AVLB
UID 1721: T-34
UID 1722: T-55
UID 1705: Sexton (usually on rear hull just below starting handle hole)

Pictures:

M4A1 outside would also be good.
M4 on trailer - might need some creative work with a camera on a pole!


Trevor, are you looking for pictures of any other subjects?

Massimo

#138: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:38 am
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Chris reported great news about Wildegg (Switzerland). The Museum now opens to the public once a month, April-October.
I was there in the past (thanks to Chris), but pictures I took weren't that great (my mistake), so I have an extra reason to visit it once again within the following months. They mostly focus on Swiss material, but they have some US stuff too:
www.militaermuseumwildegg.ch/

Massimo

#139: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:13 pm
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- the_shadock
I've found the Serial Number of the M4A4 on the trailer, it is SN 5657 :


There is no M4A2(105), both are M4A3(105). Note that I don't think that any M4A2 was built with a 105mm howitzer, only M4 and M4A3.
During my last visit in September 2011, I've tried to find the SN on all of the Shermans, but I was only able to find it on the M4A4 on the trailer, the M4A4 Crab (SN 5230), the Baldwin M4 75mm (SN 15499) and that's it.

The M48 AVBL could have the SN 4450, but I'm not 100% sure.

One has to scratch the paint on the rear tow lugs of the M32B2, because I've seen traces of the serial but they can't be read with all the paint currently on them..

If you try to look on some of the M4A3(105) Sherman tow lugs, there is some grease on some of them, and one has to be careful..

P-O


Thanks, P-O - I'll update with this info.


- Massimo_Foti
Trevor, are you looking for pictures of any other subjects?

Massimo


I managed to photograph most of the tanks during my visit but not the following:

Valentine bridgelayer
Crusader gun tractor
IS-2 (actually I did photograph it, but it was attached to a market stall)
Renault FT
T-34-85 (green)

Michel, Walter and Tim have kindly given me some photos of these, but I wouldn't say no to a few more recent ones and greater coverage.

#140: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: L.Delsing PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:20 pm
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Hi Trevor,
Send you two seperate a mails with 2 photos of the green Overloon T-34.

regards,
Lesley

#141: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: Massimo_FotiLocation: Lugano, Switzerland PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:01 am
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- TrevorLarkum

I managed to photograph most of the tanks during my visit but not the following:

Valentine bridgelayer
Crusader gun tractor
IS-2 (actually I did photograph it, but it was attached to a market stall)
Renault FT
T-34-85 (green)

Michel, Walter and Tim have kindly given me some photos of these, but I wouldn't say no to a few more recent ones and greater coverage.


Fine, they are all interesting subjects I wouldn't miss myself, apart the T-34/85. I'll add them to the to-do list, just to be 100% sure.

Massimo

#142: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: Michel_KraussLocation: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:28 pm
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these 2 will be dificult Neutral

- Valentine bridgelayer
- Crusader gun tractor

during the militracks event made a quick tour around the musuem, to get some photo's of the sWS
And these 2 British vehicle's are not longer on display.

#143: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: WalterLocation: Arnhem PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:49 pm
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Hi Trevor
The Valentine Bridgelayer was last September in the back storage
I made some pictures back then ,and I think I send it to you
If not let me know

Walter

#144: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:38 am
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Thanks everyone who has sent me Overloon pictures. I'll upload them all as soon as I can.

Walter, I have pictures from you of the Overloon Panther and T34, but not of the Valentine bridgelayer.

#145: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: WalterLocation: Arnhem PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:44 am
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OK Trevor ,I will send you what I have of the Bridgelayer

Walter

#146: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:59 am
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Thanks. To be fair, I have a backlog of photos from many people that I'm starting to work through, so it's possible I've missed that you've already sent them.

#147: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:21 am
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- the_shadock
I've found the Serial Number of the M4A4 on the trailer, it is SN 5657 :



Added, thank you:

Unique ID 1711: Overloon M4A4


- the_shadock
There is no M4A2(105), both are M4A3(105). Note that I don't think that any M4A2 was built with a 105mm howitzer, only M4 and M4A3.


Corrected, thank you.

Unique ID 1709: Overloon M4A3 (105) HVSS


- the_shadock
During my last visit in September 2011, I've tried to find the SN on all of the Shermans, but I was only able to find it on the M4A4 on the trailer, the M4A4 Crab (SN 5230), the Baldwin M4 75mm (SN 15499) and that's it.


I had found and photographed the serial numbers on the Crab and M4 myself, but thanks anyway.


- the_shadock
The M48 AVBL could have the SN 4450, but I'm not 100% sure.


Added (as unconfirmed) - thanks.

Unique ID 1718: Overloon M48A2 AVLB


- Massimo_Foti
Based on P-O observations I've updated the to-do list:

Pictures:

M4A1 outside would also be good.
M4 on trailer - might need some creative work with a camera on a pole!


Massimo - for the 'M4 on trailer' I should have said M4A4, it's the one P-O has given the number for above, so I don't need anything further.

#148: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:13 pm
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- L.Delsing
Hi Trevor,
Send you two seperate a mails with 2 photos of the green Overloon T-34.

regards,
Lesley


Thanks - photos added, and text and location list updated with Oirschot.

Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34


- Walter
Hi Trevor
The Valentine Bridgelayer was last September in the back storage
I made some pictures back then ,and I think I send it to you
If not let me know

Walter


Thanks - added.

Unique ID 25: Overloon Valentine Bridgelayer


I've also now got good coverage of the IS-2 thanks to P.-O.

Unique ID 1725: Overloon IS-2

#149: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: Pzkpfw-e PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:05 pm
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Early photos from Overloon. Look like postcards.


From www.verzamelaarsmarkt....px?page=14

#150: Re: Our plans and trips to military museums Author: TrevorLarkumLocation: Northampton, England PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:53 pm
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Nice, but those pictures are probably in copyright so I can't use them. As it happens Walter has sent me some early Overloon photos (1974) which I've just added:

Unique ID 53: Overloon Panther

Unique ID 143: Overloon Crusader Gun Tractor



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