#1: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:28 pm ---- StuG III
StuG III
StuG III
StuH 42
Hummel
Wespe
Sd.Kfz. 234
Sd.Kfz. 250
Sd.Kfz. 250
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#2: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicl Author: the_shadock, Location: Normandy, FrancePosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:47 pm ---- hello,
do these plates belong to surviving vehicles? If so, it would help to know the SNs of the vehicles that are part of the collection, because some numbers can be read quite easily.
P-O
#3: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:08 pm ---- For the Hummel and Wespe, theoretically yes - since the museum was only known to have one of each. For others its more difficult. For example the museum has/had two StuH 42s - so which one has the above number?
I'll double check against my spreadsheet and post more later.
#4: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Rick_Eshleman, Location: Lewes, Delaware, USAPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:33 pm ---- Neil, Thanks for sharing the info. Has the Museum moved files and photos to Ft. Lee yet? I did some research in the little archives "room" at Aberdeen years ago, after Dan O'Brian was gone. Col. Jarrett was the curator prior to O'Brian, and his collection is in Carlisle thus where I got most older APG photos. Rick
#5: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:05 am ---- For the Hummel and Wespe, theoretically yes - since the museum was only known to have one of each. For others its more difficult. For example the museum has/had two StuH 42s - so which one has the above number?
I'll double check against my spreadsheet and post more later.
#6: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:19 am ---- More comparison:
StuGs
Only have info on two in the collection:
StuG III 40 Ausf G (FMAR267, no SN info). Still at APG?
Three were in the museum's collection - all presumed destroyed:
Sd.Kfz. 234/1 sPz Sp Wg (FMCV179, no SN info).
Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma (FMCV98, no SN info). img.photobucket.com/al...V98-Sd.jpg
Sd.Kfz. 234/3 sPz Sp Wg (FMCV144, no SN info).
Sd.Kfz.250s
Two were in the museum's collection - also presumed destroyed:
#7: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: bsmart, Location: Central MarylandPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:34 pm ---- Uh - The one you have marked Hummel appears to have 7.5 Stu written on the tag. As I remember it a Hummel is a 150mm (15 cm)
#8: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Pzkpfw-e, Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:49 pm ---- Thus either a Stug, or maybe an Sdkfz251/9 or /22?
#9: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:41 am ---- Good point, but the actual plate (with holes in it) says Hummel...
Neil
#10: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:55 am ---- Interesting revelation about the Hummel data plate - it is from a _second_ Hummel.
Here is the data plate for the museum's Hummel: SN 320180
And here is the "new" Hummel data plate: SN 32049x (hole in the plate)
I wonder if these plates were given away because they were from scrapped vehicles? Or perhaps taken from destroyed vehicles on the battlefield?
Neil
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#11: Re: "New" Ordnance Museum Data Plates #2 Other German Vehicles Author: Neil_Baumgardner, Location: Arlington, VAPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:18 am ---- Matching more chassis numbers against info from Panzer Profiles:
StuG chassis numbers 92375, 107530 and 1077550 matches Ausf Gs like the plates say, any of which could match FMAR267. Similarly, StuH 42s were built on Ausf G chassis, so chassis number 107578 could be a match.
Finally, chassis number 32118 matches a Wespe. Hard to know whether this is the museum's Wespe or not...