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#1: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: octo68,

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:36 pm
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Hello everybody,

The Pz 39 Praga in Vugelles is no more visible (7561 with moked up gun). He has been replaced with M113 (74307).

www.flickr.com/photos/...hotostream

Greetings from Switzerland !

#2: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Doug_Kibbey, Location: The Great Satan

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:01 pm
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Thanks, OCTO68.

How is that M113 armed and are there any otter views of that turret arrangement? What is this variant designated (if you know)?

#3: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: octo68,

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:36 pm
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Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

Hope it helps.

#4: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Doug_Kibbey, Location: The Great Satan

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:43 pm
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- octo68

Hello Doug,

I am not a M113 specialist, I am sure that Massimo will help... the swiss designation is M113 S Pz 63/73, with 20 mm mounted gun.

www.flickr.com/photos/...7245004901

www.flickr.com/photos/...245004901/

Hope it helps.

It does, Thanks!

#5: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:58 pm
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Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!

Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo

Last edited by Massimo_Foti on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am; edited 1 time in total

#6: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am
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Last summer I posted some recent info on Pz 39:
www.com-central.net/in...chaffausen

Massimo

#7: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Doug_Kibbey, Location: The Great Satan

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:46 am
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- Massimo_Foti

Good news from Vugelles, hopefully they recognized the historical value of the tanks and it will go to a better place. Thanks for the info!

Doug, yes, it's a 63/73; later on some were upgrade to the Schutzenpanzer 63/89 configuration:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9930412808

The 20 mm in the turret comes from De Haviland Vampires or Venoms that were either passed to training units or retired.

Massimo

My man! And that's interesting about being salvaged from Vamps and Venoms. Maybe had a higher ROF than most ground mount 20's. Either way, nice bit of trivia.

#8: Re: Switzerland update in Vugelles Author: Massimo_Foti, Location: Lugano, Switzerland

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:16 am
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As far as I know the 20 mm guns were reused just because it was a cost effective solution. The Swiss Army often try to make good use of obsolescent equipment.

Massimo

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