- JimWebThe only place I have seen the term 'Starship' used in documents is in relation to the M60E2 which had the driver in the turret as well....
The only place I have seen the term "M60E2" is on page 179 of Hunnicutt's "Patton" to describe the interim nomenclature of an M60A1 that has been modified to accept the M81 gun and Shillelagh system. There was no provision for relocating the driver in this vehicle of which I'm aware.
Is it possible you are referring to the MBT70?
- JimWebThe only place I have seen the term "M60E2" is on page 179 of Hunnicutt's "Patton" to describe the interim nomenclature of an M60A1 that has been modified to accept the M81 gun and Shillelagh system. There was no provision for relocating the driver in this vehicle of which I'm aware.
Is it possible you are referring to the MBT70?
No! The M60E2 is the M60 fitted with the ICFC turret.
Even Hunnicutt missed things (dare I say that here???)
- Doug_Kibbey- JimWebThe only place I have seen the term "M60E2" is on page 179 of Hunnicutt's "Patton" to describe the interim nomenclature of an M60A1 that has been modified to accept the M81 gun and Shillelagh system. There was no provision for relocating the driver in this vehicle of which I'm aware.
Is it possible you are referring to the MBT70?
No! The M60E2 is the M60 fitted with the ICFC turret.
Even Hunnicutt missed things (dare I say that here???)
Whoa! Looks like a giant Sheridan turret with a position for another crewmen. Did this work the same as the MBT70 turret with the same attendant "motion sickness" problems? You'd think something would have been gained from that experience that would have ruled it out on the MBT70....was this operated enough, with driver in that position, to reveal this problem? I can't understand how those issues would only have been manifested on one vehicle and not the other...
It would also seem, from that picture, that the driver would be blind in certain angles with the loaders' hatch open, and under any circumstances with cupola in the same plane with turret in some positons.
- Doug_KibbeyNeil,
Timeline-wise, when was the turret based driving station first actually used, and were there reports of the "disorientation" problems by driver's prior to the MBT-70?
Doug
The turret was first tested on the T95 family.
Notice the 20mm cannon, just like on the MBT-70.
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