- bsmartC-8 I think was another Army plane (The DeHaviland Buffalo?)
I think the C-8 was coming around just about the time of the 'Key West Agreement' that limited the Army to no 'large' or 'combat' Fixed wing Aircraft. The C-7 caribou was put as the armies upper limit and the C-8 bing a little larger would have had to be an Air Force Aircraft after the agreement. The Air Force said 'We have the old C-123s and the new C-130s we don't need another cargo plane to take dollars away from fighters and bombers. Oh and by the way don't even think about hanging guns, rockets or bombs on the O-2 Mohawks you have, even if they have six hardpoints under the wings and are stressed for tactical manouvers.- Doug_Kibbey- bsmartC-8 I think was another Army plane (The DeHaviland Buffalo?)
Oooh, Oooh!...I know that one!
"The first four aircraft produced in 1964-65 were delivered to the U.S. Army under the designation YAC-2 (later changed to CV-7A and subsequently C-8A) but, as already stated, no American production order followed."
...and you will sometimes see the designation DHC-5A, but as it wasn't adopted, this is sort of a "limbo" name....
- bsmartThe Air Force got the F-5 for the fighter version of the T-38
The F5D had lost out to the F8U before the 'merger' of designations.- Jinx- bsmartThe Air Force got the F-5 for the fighter version of the T-38
Was this before or after the U.S. Navy used the designation F5D-1 for their prototype fighter (also known as the Skylancer)?
And when as the small scale of a question ever limited the amount we can stretch the thread- JeffStringerAll this for that little question! lol
- Doug_Kibbey
...and the A.F. F110 name for a Phantom was the "Spectre", but Ernst Blofeld put a stop to that with a blackmail scheme involving a satellite equipped with what he called a "Laser"....
My apologies I didn't see the F110 part of your response when I was scanning the list before leaving work (did you add it to the C-7/C-8 answer later ?)- Doug_Kibbey- Doug_Kibbey
...and the A.F. F110 name for a Phantom was the "Spectre", but Ernst Blofeld put a stop to that with a blackmail scheme involving a satellite equipped with what he called a "Laser"....
...Hey!...where's my extra credit for the F110 bonus question?!
- bsmartMy apologies I didn't see the F110 part of yoiur response when I was scanning the list before leaving work (did you add it to the C-7/C-8 answer later ?)- Doug_Kibbey- Doug_Kibbey
...and the A.F. F110 name for a Phantom was the "Spectre", but Ernst Blofeld put a stop to that with a blackmail scheme involving a satellite equipped with what he called a "Laser"....
...Hey!...where's my extra credit for the F110 bonus question?!
You get credit for the correct answer for the name Spectre. Also bonus points for the clarification of the Caribou/Buffalo
I'm still looking for the F-6, F-7 and F-10 (The F-7 is a very interesting story)
- bsmartThe F5D had lost out to the F8U before the 'merger' of designations.- Jinx- bsmartThe Air Force got the F-5 for the fighter version of the T-38
Was this before or after the U.S. Navy used the designation F5D-1 for their prototype fighter (also known as the Skylancer)?
- bsmartThis was one of those 'political decisions'. The F5D Skylancer. was a good fighter and seemed to have as much potential as the F8U Crusader. But Douglas at the time was building the F4D, AD, A3D, A4D, B-66 as well as a thriving Commercial business. Vought had no other business and there was some thought that it got the award to keep business spread around. Several years later the F8U-3 lost out to the F4H-1 and there were claims that with the successful F8U line still chugging along it was time to throw some Buisness in the direction of the struggling McDonnell company
- bsmartI posted a list of 'M-numbers' earlier in this thread. I got it from the old list somewhile back (a year or so ago?) Does anyone remember who posted it to the list? Was it you Neil?
The reason I ask is a couple folks have asked if they can take it to other lists. I don't want to claim ownership just because I thought to save it as a text file. So if someone else remembers who posted it I would appreciate their coming forward so the proper compiler can get credit
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