- bsmartNo problem, So are we going to see any good pictures from this trip?
- Neil_BaumgardnerDespite being basically (IMHO) one big monument to German militarism...
Neil
- Doug_Kibbey- Neil_BaumgardnerDespite being basically (IMHO) one big monument to German militarism...
Neil
Neil,
So, in that respect, it's pretty much my impression of the IWM-London.
D.
- Neil_Baumgardner
I guess Berlin just strikes me as an odd contradiction, being the capital of one of the most pacifistic states in Europe, but filled with war memorials...
Neil
- bsmart
As an associate of mine said in 1990
"A Unified Germany is the biggest threat to peace that Europe ever has"
Maybe 'modern' Germany is trying to overcome that perception. But then again it's been less than 20 years so far
- Doug_Kibbey- bsmart- Doug_KibbeyAt least everyone understood what you meant in the context mentioned by Bob (though I wonder, from afar, if he meant "Combat Command" as opposed to "Combat Team").
I chose my words with care
Bob...
As I figgered you would...I'm just not home (or in-country) at the moment and couldn't check my own sources to see if CC or CT was the more precise term. Not that it seems to matter much these days, anyway. Thanks to your clarification, I don't have to do any checking!
- bsmart
I just think that Berlin has certain contradictions as its capital... I just wonder what happens when they're several generations removed from the horrors of WWII and there are still all these monuments around...
Neil
- bsmart
I don't think you're going to slide on it that easy I can't agree that the army 'assumed' the unit was a division.
- bsmart
I've read and heard of many references to units that were Regiments and not Divisons. In fact historically I think most references were to Regiments
- bsmart
If I say 7th Cav I'll bet you think of the unit that went with Custer to Little Big Horn. That was The 7th Cavalry Regiment.
- bsmart
The Old Guard is the 3rd Infantry that's the 3rd Infantry Regiment not Division.
- bsmart
When Divisions were first created as a standing organizational unit early in the 20th Century the were simply Divisions It was the 1st Division, 29th Division, etc. The 'Infantry' designater did not come until just before WWII, at about the same time they went from Square Divisions (2 Brigades of 2 Regiments each) to Triangular Divisions ....
- bsmart
I don't think you're going to slide on it that easy I can't agree that the army 'assumed' the unit was a division.
- bsmart
I've read and heard of many references to units that were Regiments and not Divisons. In fact historically I think most references were to Regiments
- Neil_Baumgardner
But I think Bob's point is correct, even today. If an average US Army soldier says he is with the 1st Infantry, he most liikely means he is in a battalion of the 1st Infantry Regiment.
- Neil_Baumgardner
I more commonly hear "1st ID" as shorthand for 1st Infantry Division, rather than "1st Infantry." Frankly, I cant remember any instance of hearing someone say "X Infantry" and mean a division...
Most soldiers will identify themselves using the two or three (or four) digit number that specifies their battalion/regiment. For example, if a Soldier was in 1st Battalion, 77th Infantry Regiment, he would say he is in 1-77 and pronounce it as "One-Seven-Seven".- Neil_BaumgardnerBut I think Bob's point is correct, even today. If an average US Army soldier says he is with the 1st Infantry, he most liikely means he is in a battalion of the 1st Infantry Regiment. I more commonly hear "1st ID" as shorthand for 1st Infantry Division, rather than "1st Infantry." Frankly, I cant remember any instance of hearing someone say "X Infantry" and mean a division...
Neil
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