Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc...
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#1: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: Neil_BaumgardnerLocation: Arlington, VA PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:53 pm
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Interesting article I ran across on the Bovington tank museum site that calls into question the identity of all supposed "M13/40s" at Bovington, APG & in Canada...

www.tankmuseum.co.uk/c..._0901.html

Neil

#2: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: the_shadockLocation: Normandy, France PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:43 pm
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Well, interesting readings..

The difference between the M-13/40 and the M-14/41 seems to be quite thin, but the difference btw the M-14/41 and the M-15/42 is bigger (the M-14/41 having not the door on the same side than the M-15/42).

According to wwiivehicles.com website, the differences between M-13/40 and M-14/41 are :

"M14/41:

Improved the air and fuel filters and installed a more powerful diesel engine.

Had transversal radiator outlet grills, mud clearing blades at the drive sprockets, and longer fenders.
Supports for 5.3 gallon (20 liter) cans were added. "

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/italy/tanks-medium/m13-40-m14-41.asp

Maybe someone has more info to confirm?

P-O

#3: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: pineyLocation: Republic of Southern New Jersey PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:35 am
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for what it's worth, don't know for sure about the other features but neither the presumed M13 or the semovente 75 at Aberdeen have the mud cleaners but the semovente 90 there does have them. some photos here may be of help
s40.photobucket.com/al...0at%20APG/

Jeff "Piney" Lewis

#4: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: TaranovLocation: Moscow, Russia PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:43 am
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In fact, only in APG preserved M13/40. In Bovington M14/41.

#5: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: the_shadockLocation: Normandy, France PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:21 pm
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- Taranov
In fact, only in APG preserved M13/40. In Bovington M14/41.


And for the tanks in Canada?

-Canadian Forces Base, Borden (Canada), listed as M13/40
-Canadian Forces Base, Wainwright (Canada), listed as M13/40 too

Are they M14/41?

P-O

#6: Canadian M13/40s or M14/41s? Author: BruceClark PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:56 pm
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The Borden Tank needs positive confirmation as an M13/40 but the Wainwright example is a M14/41 though the sign says otherwise.

FWIW
Bruce

#7: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: TaranovLocation: Moscow, Russia PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:34 pm
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CFB Borden: M14/41, serial number RE 3410

#8: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: the_shadockLocation: Normandy, France PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:39 pm
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thanks !

P-O

#9: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: JohnPrigentLocation: Sussex, UK PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:08 am
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Tom Jentz identified the Bovington tank as an M14/41, I think from its serial number.

Cheers

John

#10: Re: Borden Italian tank - M13/40 or M14/41? Author: Maple_Leaf_Eh PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:41 pm
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- BruceClark
The Borden Tank needs positive confirmation as an M13/40 but the Wainwright example is a M14/41 though the sign says otherwise.

FWIW
Bruce


Try this for photo ID ... Not my strong suit by a long shot, but I know how to save internet links:

ipmswinnipeg.1afm.com/...p%2003.jpg

#11: Re: Wainwright Italian M13/40 or M14/41? Author: Maple_Leaf_Eh PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:43 pm
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- BruceClark
The Borden Tank needs positive confirmation as an M13/40 but the Wainwright example is a M14/41 though the sign says otherwise.

FWIW
Bruce


Here is the other link required:

ipmswinnipeg.1afm.com/...p%2096.jpg

#12: Re: Italian M13/40s or M14/41s? - Bovington, APG, etc... Author: the_shadockLocation: Normandy, France PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:25 pm
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The Italian tank at Borden was confirmed to be an M13/40, a friend of mine explained me why :

There are 2 rivets up and down the hull MG armored cover; the direction of the rods of the engine plate and the fact that there are no mudguards on the sprocket confirm this is an M13/40..(sorry for my inaccurate terms..)

P-O



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