- the_shadockwell, we could still use my own pictures and publish them under another name than mine, but I'm not sure that it is a solution.
IMO, the main risk in publishing photos of Saumur without permission, is to forbid any other photo being taken in the restricted areas. Until now, as few photos were published on the internet, permission is granted to take few pictures of the reserves during the visits (the reserves are opened to the pubic 2 days a year). The museum would say no to this in the future, if we publish too many pictures.
Pierre-Olivier
- the_shadock
well, we should go ahead on other sections of PTIF, and we could still go back to the Saumur section if ever we have a permission one day. Anyway, we could update the list without publishing new pictures.
I still have to review the last section of the PTIF.
IIRC I've sent you updates for all the other ones.
However, I only sent you updates (corrections), there are no additions, and your book is missing some vehicles that are listed on my own website and PDF list.
P-O
- the_shadock- Massimo_FotiI gave up trying to see the logic behind their behaviors :lol:
the logic is : the less photos on the internet, the more visits in the museum.
That's a point of view, but it is not mine..
A photo on a computer screen will never replace a visit on the real place, but "some people" think different.
P-O
- TrevorLarkum
As I see it we have asked for official permission to use photographs and they have not said no, and we've given them plenty of time and opportunity. My inclination is to go ahead, quite openly without deceit, in the terms we said to them we would - i.e. on PreservedTanks.com and in a new edition of PTIF, and we send them a copy of the book as we promised before it's published. They will have the opportunity to stop the process if they wish but I don't think they will. In fact, I believe we will be able to persuade them that it is in their interest to publicise the collection. Once the website and book are complete and known to the public I am sure their visitor numbers will increase, and then hopefully we will have more co-operation and help with future editions.
- TrevorLarkumUnderstood, I hadn't spotted the contradiction. If I just remove the info about it coming from the Louisiana museum, the rest should still be correct?
- Joe_DTrevor,
Got your PM and replied, I also have updates and information you requested so I will post here since I'm sure others might find it interesting. Sorry for the absence but I'm moving to a house outside of town, a little bit of land along with garages and a shop to work on my cars (and maybe an AFV in the future if I get lucky).
- Joe_D
M60 formerly located at the LaFayette Asphalt Company. Based on Tanklords images and the RN, the most likely Serial Number on this tank would be 167. This tank has gone through a rebuild as indicated by the later armored air cleaner units and the removal of the M2 .50 cal stowage bracket from the rear of the turret bustle. The latter being quite unusual and I've only seen done on one other tank. I cannot with 100% certainty say she's in the storage lot of Camp Shelby since I couldn't inspect her up close, but she did arrive around the same time as all the other vehicles. She is stored in a different lot along with the two M60A3's that were formerly in front of the VA center that's outside the Camp Shelby South Gate along HWY 49. Location: 31.190895, -89.224110
M60
Aerial
She is the most distant tank in the first picture and on the right with the gun over the rear in the other.
You have the M110A2 listed twice, She is not displayed at the Museum but is next to the M60 at the MATES site. Location: 31.186275, -89.218385. My album doesn't differentiate this so it's my fault for the confusion.
M110A2
SN BMY 579
The main storage lot at Camp Shelby where all the transfers from LaFayette are is located at this Grid: 31.194525, -89.235460.
My pictures of the lot and museum out door displays were taken March 29, 2009. This includes the images I posted above.
- Doug_KibbeyOT, somewhat...
Does anyone have a partial or complete list of facilities in the U.S. that built tanks (hull, turret, or to completion) since 1940? That would be foundries, factories, or any enterprise that was the main source for tanks from 1940 through the cold war (I'm less interested in the M1 Abrams generation).
What cities they were located in would also be helpful.
Thx in advance.
D.
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