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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:01 pm
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Here is an installation created by David Cerny and that was put on display in Prague (CZ) :



Such a shame that it was a T-34/85...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:19 pm
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Reminds me of the T34/85 in England that was painted "Pepto Bismol pink" a while back! I imagine the white stripe on the Prague installation is a reminder of the marking that invading Warsaw Pact armor sported in August '68.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:44 pm
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Yeah, and my wife STILL wants me to paint up a 1/16th T34 all pink for her. Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:52 pm
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Have those Code Pink morons gone worldwide?
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Those are unusual fittings though - maybe for a dozer, bridgelayer, mineplough, something like that?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:39 pm
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Trevor

It seems that those brackets are on the rear. In my mind, that would tend to omit a dozer or mineplough fittings.

Perhaps a Bridgelayer or something requiring rear support/mounting brackets.

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Its the back end of an SKP-5 crane version I think.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:56 am
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Kids these days...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:40 am
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That piece of ... "art" ... was VT-34 originally, no doubt... The author of this installation is the same "artist" who created Entropa for EU HQ building.

Jeff: tell your wife this "artist" is neither very popular, nor very clever. When he was painting IS-2 (sitting on top of pretty high cube shaped pedestal) in Prague, he was sitting on the barrel and painting it and moving his butt forward and painting the barrel again till the certain moment all the barrel was painted pink and that clever guy was ... sitting on the very muzzle brake. Wink
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I agree it's some kind of recovery vehicle, I hadn't thought of that. Here's a CW-34 (VT-34) with very similar fittings:

preservedtanks.com/Det...hotoID=425

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:16 am
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Trevor, you are dead right, both CW-34 and VT-34 are recovery variants of T-34, CW-34 was designed and produced in Poland and VT-34 was designed and produced in former Czechoslovakia. It is possible to say they are look-a-like vehicles. I say VT-34 was used for that "art" because I can not imagine Cerny would buy CW-34 in Poland to import that to the Czech Republic, hope you can understand.
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No, I'm sure you're right it's a VT-34 - I just happen to have pictures of a CW-34 and no pictures of a VT-34 to hand, and I understand they are nearly identical.

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- palic
Trevor, you are dead right, both CW-34 and VT-34 are recovery variants of T-34, CW-34 was designed and produced in Poland and VT-34 was designed and produced in former Czechoslovakia. It is possible to say they are look-a-like vehicles. I say VT-34 was used for that "art" because I can not imagine Cerny would buy CW-34 in Poland to import that to the Czech Republic, hope you can understand.


I guess they were both produced after the world war two..

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:58 am
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Definitely these are post war vehicles... By the way P-O, can you imagine any development and production of T-34/85 based vehicle in former Czechoslovakia during WW2? I mean during war when Czechoslovakia was under Nazi occupation? Wink
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Neutral no comments..
sometimes I say/write idiots things, sorry for that.

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