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Burgdorf (CH). Stiftung HAM
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:03 am
Post subject: Re: Burgdorf (CH). Stiftung HAM

Another prototype. This is pretty well know, since the very same vehicles was in Thun's Panzermuseum for a long time. There is another one in Full:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:46 am
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There is another one in Full:


The one in Full instead used to be in a barrack in Bière (canton Vaud), with engine removed and concrete poured inside the engine compartment. It went to Full in 1998, there it took many years to restore it and now it's in running conditions (info from the Museum).

Pictures of it are on Trevor's website:
www.preservedtanks.com...iqueID=809

And on my Flickr account:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4088553191

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:51 am
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A beautiful, large and heavy trucks with a centurion on its trailer. There is another one with the same configuration in Full. Another one is owned by the Verein Centurion association. This time in Burgdorf there was a little more space to get a decent shot. Still it's difficult to put the whole beast inside a single frame:


Rotinoff Super Atlantic by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:52 am
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I am sure you are going to love this Laughing


Mowag Panzerattrappe 4x4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:42 am
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I only had a few hours in Burgdorf. I managed to cover all the AFVs, but there was a large amount of softskins I didn't documented at all:


Trucks by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Heavy trucks by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:41 am
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... the latest member in Burgdorf. A Weasel M29, only a handful served in the Swiss Army. The Renault 31R UE Chenillette Trailer has been there before.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:50 am
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... a VW Käfer (Beetle) and Bulli (T2 ?) were outside for their regular movement.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:53 pm
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... if anybody is planning a trip to Switzerland in the near future. On Saturday October 17, 2015, there will be the 2nd public day. You can see +300 Swiss MV's!!

There will also be the launch of a new book about Swiss MV's from 1900 - 2015, where I'm one of the co-authors.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:56 am
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After many years, we've got another open day last October.

I have some subjects that need better id, this is clearly a Berna bus, but I don't know the exact model:

Berna bus by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:58 am
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Don't know the exact model of this tractor either:

Bührer by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:44 pm
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There's a new book were you'll find all the correct names Wink

The Tractor is a Bührer Super DD4. The Berna is not a bus, it's a mobile office. Could be a model 1UP. But I'm not really sure.

Hopefully the brochure about most of the Burgdorf exhibition models will be published soon.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:18 pm
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Don't know the exact model of this tractor either:

Bührer by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


Looks more like an industrial (vs.) an agricultural tractor. These often found use in military applications such as airplane tows, etc., at least over here. A typical giveaway is the lack of a PTO (power take off) if you can determine that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:27 pm
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... here you can see a pic of the rear:
www.militaerfahrzeuge...._7_26.html

Correctly, no PTO as the tractors were used for towing guns and carriages. There was no use for a PTO.

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