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Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger
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JiriTintera
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:30 am
Post subject: Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger

Dear Sirs,
I turn to you for help. I am interested for technical and historical information about the Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:08 pm
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Additional pictures:

Pz%2068%20Erprobungsträger%20M-0911%20by%20Massimo%20Foti,%20on%20Flickr
Pz 68 Erprobungsträger M-0911 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

As I said already to Jira, I don't have any additional information either. Apart from the fact it was an attempt to upgrade the Pz 68

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:48 am
Post subject: Re: Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger

Hi Massino,
thank you for the pictures. Now it remains to find a person who knows the technical details of the Pz.68 Erprobungsträger.

Jiri
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... here's a period photograph, pic is a current auction on ricardo

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger

I have been searching for some information and there is allmost nothing to be found

The only thing I could find, was that the plan was to use the some gun that is in use with the Panzer 87
Because the Pz 87 is a modified Leopard 2A4 that would be a 120mm Rheinmetall L/44.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:12 pm
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The tank in the picture posted by Chris looks like having a 120 mm, the one in Burgdorf looks like a 105 mm. It remains to be seen if those are fully functioning guns or not

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:58 pm
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... the pic I posted is also in the book "125 Jahre Konstruktionswerkstätte Thun" (125 years K+W Factory).

The legend is: Funktionsmuster Panzer 68 mit 120mm Geschütz und Zusatzpanzerung. That means something like "evaluation model Panzer 68 with 120 gun and additional armor".

Have you ever contacted RUAG Land Systems if they still have some information available?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:54 pm
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This is a slick little tank, kind of like an M-41!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:26 am
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The Pz 68 is the size of a Leopard 1, bigger than an M41

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:07 am
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... just found some more pics

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Swiss prototype tank: Pz.68 Erprobungsträger

Dear Colleague Zemsi,
thanks for the link to the company RUAG and also thank you for the beautiful pictures.

With Swiss institutions I have a bad experience, such as Armeemuseum Burgdorf. This museum I recently sent a letter. The local staff did not respond to my letter.

Sincerely JRT
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... and here's a new pic:

Aus dem Versuchsbetrieb: Ein normaler Schweizer Panzer 68 (links) und ein mit Zusatzpanzerung aufgerüstetes Fahrzeug gleichen Typs.


Means: on the left side an ordinary Pz 68 and on the right hand side the same type with additional armour.

Source: www.armeemuseum.ch/index.php?id=88


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