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L.Delsing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:04 am
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My boss decided that I have to go on a 12 week technical course in Bingen, WA (near Portland, OR) which is a great opportunity to look for tank, aircraft and other military hardware.

Suggestions?

Also, is it allowed to go as foreigner to a local gunrange and fire some interesting hardware?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:14 pm
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As to your second question, I know of no Federal prohibition on that. There is a range in Las Vegas that does this; I'm sure there are many foreigners as customers. It might come down to the policy of the range owner. You will probably need your passport. It's a crime for a prohibited person (e.g. a felon) to even hold a firearm, so I'm sure the owners want to check if you are prohibited. As a foreigner, you could easily say that under the current policy of "extreme vetting", you can't be a bad guy or you wouldn't be allowed in the USA . . .

I searched "machine gun rental oregon" and got a few hits:

beavercreekarmory.com/
tritacshooting.com/rental-guns/
www.thebaronsden.com/tommy.php

You are at least 12 years old, right? That seems to be the lowest age allowed . . .

There's a place in Reno Nevada that has M2HB cal. .50 for rent, $8 per round, $700 minimum.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:59 pm
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Make sure you grab the Oregon and Washington AFV Maps and GPS files before you go!

Regarding aircraft, I recommend making the trip to Madras, OR to see the Erickson collection, Seattle, WA for The Museum of Flight, Everett, WA for Flying Heritage and Combat Armor museum & Historic Flight Foundation, McMinnville, OR to see the Hughes Spruce Goose at Evergreen Air Museum.

Also, the aircraft display at Joint Base Lewis-McChord is terrific and you could likely go see the outside AFV exhibits at the Ft Lewis museum (I think the museum is closed for refurbishment, but check the website) - it can be a bit of a hassle to get onto the base, though - and that's as a US citizen.

Have fun!
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Some interpretations Section 18 USC 922 of the US Code are that it is illegal for anyone coming in under a nonimmigrant visa to handle firearms. In particular, some students that came in under student visas have been deported for going to ranges.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:55 pm
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Thanks for the info. Today I (and collegues) got the final go. Looking forward to it! Last time I visited the USA was in 2006 (Ft Leonard Wood).

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Lesley
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