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The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:00 pm
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'The B-29 is actually a Bell-Atlanta B-29-60BA Superfortress, and it is listed as being on display at the SAC museum at Offutt AFB, NE., before being moved to a museum west of Omaha. '

Muesum just west of Omaha is probably the SAC museum. Makes sense given the variety of planes id'ed so far.

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Probably early to mid 1950's. The B-36's service life was fairly short, being replaced by the B-52 from the late '50's. Would have to dig into my library at home to be more specific than that.

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To correct and elaborate on my earlier post, I looked up a few things while I went home for my lunch break. The first B-36 outfit was the 7th Bomb Group (Heavy) at Carswell AFB, Ft. Worth, TX from July 1948 with B-36A in primarily a training role. The first truly operational B-36 unit was the 11th Bomb Group (Heavy), also at Carswell AFB, transitioning from B-29 to B-36B in the autumn of 1949. The B-36 in the comparison photo appears to be an A or B model (no jet pods under the outer wings). The B-36D (first version with jet pods) entered SAC service in August 1950. The last operational B-36 flight was 12 February 1959 with the 95th Bomb Wing, I beleive by a B-36J, the last production variant.

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Wow!

Thank you, all those aircraft guys shoulder-hopping on the new Armored Fighting Vehicles site,

I bet all of the armor enthusiasts out there started in as plastic aircraft modelers, then specialized as new armor kits came out. I know I did.

When I came Stateside in 1953, I was in Sixth Grade at White Point Elementary School in San Pedro, CA, which overlooked the Pacific. Every time a B36 came over, the sound was so characteristic and unmistakable that our teacher had no choice but to let us out and see the 'aluminum overcast' fly by. We also saw many refueling evolutions of the B-29 tanker variants delivering fuel to B-50s that flew by at about four thousand feet or so, just off the coast

A real thrill for a little British boy.

ARMOR CONTENT:

Saw a weird Rooshian-looking vehicle today outside a hangar, and pulled over to have a look, heart poundng in expectation. Turned out to be a blow-molded plastic-crap replica. Schnizzlefritz!!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:37 am
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Hi Folks!

That B-36 next to the B-29 is one of the very first ones build. Possible a XB-36.

1. The canopy is more like a B-29 and not the later type that production B-36s had.

2. Main gear wheel. That A/C has one single tire. The production versions and a group of smaller wheels, four or maybe six.

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Regarding the first photo, check the Officers club posting, the complete info on all planes pictured including serial numbers are posted there. They are part of the collection maintained by the Strategic Air & Space Museum in Omaha. That museum was formerly called the SAC Museum, and the picture was taken at the former location of that museum. I frequently go there. In fact I plan going there this weekend to see a shuttle astronaut that will be there.

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Jeffrey and I really enjoy aircraft and have been posting them mainly on Officers Club, as to not clutter up the "Armor Content" of this DG. This was posted by accident here. If you enjoy aircraft, and esspecially trying to figure out "odd" or different birds, then go there to check out what my son Jeffrey (this is his signature thats logged on) has posted there. SFC Jeff Button

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:08 pm
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Hi Folks!

That B-36 next to the B-29 is one of the very first ones build. Possible a XB-36.

1. The canopy is more like a B-29 and not the later type that production B-36s had.

2. Main gear wheel. That A/C has one single tire. The production versions and a group of smaller wheels, four or maybe six.

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Good catch, Roy. I totally missed the landing gear bit. Production B-36's had a four-wheel main landing gear bogie.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:41 pm
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Good catch, Roy. I totally missed the landing gear bit. Production B-36's had a four-wheel main landing gear bogie.

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Hi David, Hi Folks!

The first time I saw movie film of an early model B-36 up in the air with the gear down, I thought I was looking at a RC model and not a real aircraft. Ever sense then, that single tire stands out to me. It is so big!

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Tons of B-36 links can be found here

www.B-36.net

let the six turning and four burning crowd enjoy Smile

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LOL, I've recently seen all the aircraft in that first photo. I live in Omaha, and was at the Strategic Air and Space Museum, a couple weeks ago. The plane that is peeking out on the right side of the picture may not be a B-47. If you look slightly in front of the nose, there are props and an engine nacelle. It belongs to a B-45C(NRB), S/N 48-0017, Tornado, North American recon plane. I looked it up on the museum web site. The largest tail on the far right of the photo is definately the B-36J-111, S/N 52-2217A, General Dynamics. with the Boeing KC-97G, S/N 53-0198, "Stratofreighter" being the second in line next to the B-29(TB), S/N 44-84076, Super Fortress, Boeing (Bell). I have been on that ramp that the museum used to be located, and that picture was very familier to me. The new museum hosts travelling exibits periodically, and currently has the Liberty Bell 7 Mercury capsule on display. That is the one that Gus Grissom flew, that the hatch blew off and sank to the bottom of the Atlantic for 30 years. In fact they have a number of current and former astronauts scheduled to make appearances there over the next couple months. One will be there this Saturday, in fact, and I may go out and listen to him. The smaller plane is diffinately a Lockheed T-33A, S/N 61-7964, "T-Bird". I've seen a few of them flying when I was still active duty in the Air Force. If you want to see what is on display at that museum, here is a link www.strategicairandspace.com/

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The plane that is peeking out on the right side of the picture may not be a B-47. If you look slightly in front of the nose, there are props and an engine nacelle. It belongs to a B-45C(NRB), S/N 48-0017, Tornado, North American recon plane. I looked it up on the museum web site.


IIRC, the B-45 Tornado was a four-engine jet bomber, not a prop-job. The prop boss and nacelle must belong to yet another aircraft. I still think the nose belongs to a B-47 due to the shape and the stance of what is visible of the aircraft. Just my 2 cents worth again.....



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:36 am
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IIRC, the B-45 Tornado was a four-engine jet bomber, not a prop-job. The prop boss and nacelle must belong to yet another aircraft. I still think the nose belongs to a B-47 due to the shape and the stance of what is visible of the aircraft. Just my 2 cents worth again.....



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Hi Folks!

I have to agree with David, that looks more like a B-47. If that is a B-45, the nose has been changed a lot.

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I just looked a again, and you might be right. The prop underneath the nose might belong to another plane parked next to it, possibly the Albatross they have. I don't see any wing beside it though. I know they have a preatty good collection of prop planes, but none that I can remember that the prop & cowling sticks far enough out that you can't see any wing, body or nose of the plane as well. I looked again at the B-45 picture and it is a 4 engined jet. I do remember the plane too. In fact I will see it tomorrow morning, probably around the time you see this post. Astronaut Dr. Tom Jones, four time veteran of the space shuttle will be there, and I will be there to see him.

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I visited the Museum a few years back (It was the year of the great Mississippi flood, I remember becasue I was going to visit Rock Island but it was under water) I think the museum has moved since then. It was an interesting collection. Their web site mentions have two display hangers to protcet the aircraft from the ravages of weather. That would make me suspect that the picture that started this was taken before the move to their current site.

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