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A whole package of "Lingle"....
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...and I understand the package is for sale. Don't wanna' even guess at the price....

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Hi Doug! Hi Folks!

INTERESTING!

Very nice setup. Looks like it is in good shape. That owner qualifies for membership in the LINGLEMUSTTEES!
I wonder what that pipe is that looks like it is mounted were the side machine gun base should be?

Looks like if both the M114 Lingle and the 5 ton break down, he has a bike mounted on top the wench (<sorry, that should say WINCH, that is the way I spell things after a long night at work. I knew it didn't look right, but I was just to sleepy to see it.) for a third back up.

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I think I missed the wench. Which picture was she in?

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The years of the truck / trailer / "Lingle", don't quite match up do they? How about a quick spec's sheet on the M114 from somwone that was actually there, what was she capable of?

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Hi Jeff! Hi Folks!

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The years of the truck / trailer / "Lingle", don't quite match up do they?


The M54 five ton matchs up. I remember those trucks in the battalion transportation platoons during my time at Riley, Bragg, and later in Germany with units that had the M114s. They were for hauling ammo and fuel. If I remember right there was something like 12 of them of which four had fuel pod systems mounted in the cargo bed.

The trailier, I don't know about. I have never seen a real one, only pictures and none of my books have any info on that one.

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How about a quick spec's sheet on the M114 from somwone that was actually there, what was she capable of?


Development commenced January 1956. Type classified as standard 'A' in May 1963. First contract was for 1,215 vehicles, 615 completed as M-114A0s (TC had a flex mounted M2 HB 50 cal) with the remember modifed (M-114A1) to mount the XM-26 turret (hand cranked) holding a M2 HB TT 50 cal Machine gun which could be fired while the TC was buttoned up. There was a second contract for 1,295 M114A1 and a third for 1,200 more. Somewhere in there the XM-26 turret was upgraded to the XM-27 with power movement and a M-139 (Hispano-Suiza of Switzerland) 20mm auto cannon. Same gun mounted in a couple of West German scout vehicles. Those vehicles were called M-114A1E1s and sometimed called M-114A2s.

Name: Carrier, Command and Reconnaissance. Often shorten to C&R.
I ran acrossed a company commander in Germany who told me for a short time the mech infantry company commanders (in Germany) had M-114s for their armored vehicle. He told they didn't last very long and was replaced by a M113 APC. I guess that is why 'Command' was part of the name.
All welded aluminium armor just like the M-113 APC.
Amphibious with LOTS of care. It had ONE bilge pump.
Crew: Commander, Driver, Scout Observer, with room for one passager down inside the hull with no way to see out.
Combat Weight: 15,276 pounds/6,930 kg.
Best I can remember, the M-114A1 had a MLC of 7 while the M-114A2 was 8.
Lenght: 14 ft 7 & 3/4 inchs/4.46 m
Width: 7 ft 7 & 3/4 inchs/2.33 m
Speed Road: 36 mph/58 kmph
Water: 4 mph/6.4 kmph
Range: 275 miles/442 km
The driver had a very reliable fuel gage. It was a clear plastic tube that ran from the bottom of the tank up the the top. All he had to do was look for the top of the gas and he could tell how much fuel was inside the tank. That tank was setting right next to his left leg and above the first road wheel. After seeing a number of vehicles hit land mines in Vietnam, I would hate to see what would happien when that first road wheel hit an AT-mine.
Engine: Chevrolet 283 V8 OHV (gas) 160 hp at 4,600 rpm
Standard 24 volt military electrical system. The M-114A0 and A1 had two 12 volt battiers while the M-114A2 needed four to support the electric pumps that powered hydraul system for XM-27 turret.

The 20mm cannon
Ammo: If I remember right, basic load inside the hull was 400 rounds of 16 cans.
High Explosive Incendiary Tracer (HEIT)
Armor Piercing Incendiary Tracer (APIT)
Target Practive Tracer (TPT) I never saw this one.

Service ammo came in a 25 round can with a mix of three HEIT and then two APIT rounds. That can was just the right size to keep a vehicle log book in.
The box on the right side of the turret would hold three cans of ammo while the feed chute would hold another 25 rounds. There was an interupter switch at the start of the feed chute which would stop the cannon from firing those last 25 rounds. The fire control box had an emergancy override button which would turn it off and let a TC burn ever round in the belt. I don't remember how much time it took to replace the first 25 rounds and hand crank the feeder until the first round was in position to be chambered. Not something one would want to try during a fire fight. There were five rates of fire. Single shot (the only one that really could hit anything), five round burst, slow or fast and twenty five round burst (I think, it might have been 20 rounds) at slow or fast. Slow was 200 rounds per minute while fast was the cycle rate of 820 to 1,000 rounds per minute. On auto, the hull would really rock. I have a war story for that, but will save it for another time. Something to do with two Sherman tanks.

On the troop compartment side of the rear engine bulkhead were two racks for M-14 rifles. M-16s would fit, but fell out alot. The inside of the rear hatch had three racks for holding M-72 LAWs.
For some opinions on the M-114 during it's time, stop over and check out the Eagle Horse Site (2nd Sqdn, 11th ACR). There is a section on equipment with one on the M-114.

www.eaglehorse.org/4_f..._intro.htm

Disclaimer: The second individual was promoted by the web master. He was advised of that error and he then corrected the third point of promotion leaving the first two points in place.

Jeff, You asked, hope this does the job!
Sgt, Scouts out!

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