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Some sort of prime mover/tank tractor I assume?



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:38 pm
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Some notable US vehicles...

M3A3 Lee

T14%20heavy%20assault%20tank M6A1%20heavy%20tank An%20interesting%20prime%20mover%20-%20Walter%20Model%20Adum...

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Some experimental tank models...

T20E3

T22 T23s M4A2E4%20Sherman%20with%20experimental%20wide-track%20torsion%20bar%20suspension

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:51 pm
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Two interwar tanks & some Shermans & Sherman-based vehicles...

T2E1 Light Tank

T4E1%20Medium%20Tank M4A3%20Sherman%20with%20T1E4%20Mine%20Exploder T5%20TRV%20converted%20to%20Mine%20Exploder%20Vehicle T72%20GMC T52%20GMC%20-%20gotta%20love%20a%20ball-turret%20Sherman%20;)%20even%20if%20it%20was%20a%20flop... M4A2E1%20Sherman

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Another interwar tank & more Shermans...

T1E4 Light Tank

M4A3(105)%20Sherman%20with%20T121%20twin%20MG%20mount M4A4%20Sherman%20with%20Allis-Chalmers%20suspension M4A6%20Sherman Plus%20another%20T23

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:10 pm
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M32A1 Tank Recovery Vehicle

Another%20T23 T13%20Trackless%20Tank T55E1%20Cook%20Interceptor

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:13 pm
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Last set of US vehicles

M4A3E1 Sherman

M4A3E3%20Sherman And%20yet%20another%20T23

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:19 pm
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Foreign vehicles.

Sd.Kfz. 251 SPW

Crusader%20Mk%20II Type%202%20Ka-Mi,%20apparently%20pre-%20&%20post-cutaway...%20This%20could%20be%20the%20one%20that%20was%20formerly%20at%20Camp%20Pendleton%20and%20is%20now%20presumably%20in%20storage%20in%20Barstow%20CA. Type%2097%20Te-Ke

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:24 pm
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More foreign vehicles.

Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma

Type%2097%20Chi-Ha Bergepanther Type%2094%20TK Type%201%20Ho-Ki%20APC

Enough for tonight. Maybe more sometime later this weekend...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:36 pm
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The 8x8 vehicle looks like the Sterling T26E3.

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- Cloudy
The 8x8 vehicle looks like the Sterling T26E3


Damn he beat me to it Sad

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Nice set of images - bit of a damning inditement of that idiot that scrapped a load of vehicles in the 1950s tho...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:11 am
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The rear end of that SdKfz 251 sure looks odd, did they remove it for some reason?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:44 am
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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

Alan and Jim are correct. Here is a photo of it pulling a T58E1 trailier with a T26E1 tank on board.


Photo is from U.S. Military Wheeled Vehicles by Fred W. Crismon. That book has stats and a few more photos.

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Nice set of images - bit of a damning inditement of that idiot that scrapped a load of vehicles in the 1950s tho...

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True, although we dont necessarily have confirmation that all of these (or firm info for almost any of them) were actually scrapped. Some may have been transferred to other collections/museums, and possibly others still are "behind the fence" (albeit more doubtful). But yes, more than likely, most were scrapped...

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