±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 635
Total: 635
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Home
10: Home
11: Home
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Your Account
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Home
23: Downloads
24: CPGlang
25: Home
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Home
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Photo Gallery
50: Downloads
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Member Screenshots
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Home
67: News Archive
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: News
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Downloads
79: Community Forums
80: News
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: CPGlang
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Member Screenshots
96: Home
97: Home
98: Photo Gallery
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Home
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Statistics
110: Downloads
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Photo Gallery
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Photo Gallery
125: Community Forums
126: Photo Gallery
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Home
130: Your Account
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Home
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Photo Gallery
155: Home
156: News
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Photo Gallery
167: Photo Gallery
168: Photo Gallery
169: Photo Gallery
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Photo Gallery
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Statistics
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Member Screenshots
180: CPGlang
181: Downloads
182: Photo Gallery
183: Community Forums
184: Home
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Home
189: Downloads
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Downloads
195: Home
196: Community Forums
197: Home
198: Photo Gallery
199: Downloads
200: Community Forums
201: Photo Gallery
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Member Screenshots
213: Photo Gallery
214: Home
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Home
231: Photo Gallery
232: Home
233: Community Forums
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Downloads
238: Community Forums
239: Member Screenshots
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Downloads
244: Photo Gallery
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Downloads
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Home
252: Community Forums
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: CPGlang
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Downloads
262: Photo Gallery
263: Your Account
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Home
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Downloads
272: Community Forums
273: Your Account
274: Community Forums
275: Home
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Your Account
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Community Forums
285: Your Account
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: CPGlang
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Downloads
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Photo Gallery
299: Member Screenshots
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Home
303: Your Account
304: Community Forums
305: Downloads
306: News Archive
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: CPGlang
310: Community Forums
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Photo Gallery
315: Home
316: Downloads
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Home
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: Member Screenshots
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Downloads
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Home
354: Community Forums
355: Downloads
356: Community Forums
357: CPGlang
358: Community Forums
359: Home
360: Downloads
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Photo Gallery
366: Downloads
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Home
370: Home
371: Home
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Photo Gallery
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Home
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Photo Gallery
392: Community Forums
393: Member Screenshots
394: Community Forums
395: Downloads
396: Home
397: Downloads
398: Community Forums
399: Photo Gallery
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Photo Gallery
403: Home
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Home
409: Community Forums
410: Photo Gallery
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Photo Gallery
414: Photo Gallery
415: Photo Gallery
416: CPGlang
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Photo Gallery
423: CPGlang
424: Community Forums
425: Home
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Home
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Statistics
437: Community Forums
438: Downloads
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: News
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Photo Gallery
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Downloads
452: Home
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Your Account
459: Home
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Community Forums
468: Your Account
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Photo Gallery
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Photo Gallery
476: Home
477: CPGlang
478: Downloads
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Photo Gallery
482: Your Account
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Home
487: Photo Gallery
488: Photo Gallery
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Member Screenshots
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Member Screenshots
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Photo Gallery
498: Downloads
499: Community Forums
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Home
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Home
510: Community Forums
511: Downloads
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Photo Gallery
515: Home
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Downloads
524: Photo Gallery
525: Downloads
526: Home
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Home
531: Home
532: Community Forums
533: Home
534: CPGlang
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Your Account
539: Community Forums
540: Member Screenshots
541: Home
542: Community Forums
543: Home
544: Community Forums
545: Home
546: Downloads
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Downloads
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Home
556: Home
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Photo Gallery
560: Home
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Photo Gallery
567: Community Forums
568: Member Screenshots
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Home
575: Community Forums
576: Downloads
577: Home
578: Home
579: Photo Gallery
580: Downloads
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Photo Gallery
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Downloads
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Photo Gallery
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Home
597: Community Forums
598: Home
599: Photo Gallery
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Photo Gallery
603: Community Forums
604: Home
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Home
613: Photo Gallery
614: Home
615: Community Forums
616: CPGlang
617: Community Forums
618: Photo Gallery
619: CPGlang
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Downloads
623: Home
624: Community Forums
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Home
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: Community Forums
632: Community Forums
633: Your Account
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:05 pm
Post subject: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hello, here is my list of still existing Hetzer and G-13 tanks. This one is incomplete, so would you tell me if you know other Hetzers or G-13 in museums, private owners...

Original Hetzers :

Kubinka Tank Museum (Russia) 2 tanks
Camp Borden (Canada)
Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum (USA)
Polish Military Museum, Warsaw (Poland)
Army technical museum, Lesany (CZ) (without gun)
Museum on Demarcation line, Rokycany (CZ) : wreck
Pansarmuseet Axvall (Sweden)
Another wreck, location unknown, might be in Poland

Modified G-13 :

Panzermuseum Munster (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany)
Auto + technik museum Sinsheim (Germany) : unmodified G13
Militärhistorischen Museum der Bundeswehr, Dresden (Germany)
Saumur Tank Museum (France)
Saumur Tank Museum (France) : running condition
Bovington Tank Museum (UK)
Military History National Museum, Diekirch (Luxembourg)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland)
Thun Tank Museum (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Morges (Switzerland) : unmodified G13
Brussels Tank Museum (Belgium)
Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)
Battle of Normandy Museum, Bayeux (France)
Army Technical Museum, Lesany (CZ)
ASPHM association, La Wantzenau, Strasbourg (France) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Musée de l’abri, Hatten (France)
Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas (USA)
Wings of Liberation Museum, Best (Netherlands)
Littlefield collection, Portola (USA)
Pansaarmuseet, Axvall (Sweden) : unmodified G13
Imperial War Museum Duxford (UK) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13

Patton Museum, Fort Knox (USA) (need a photo)
Rusk Toyland Combat Vehicles, Texas (USA) (need a photo)

+ 1 Hetzer shown in Beltring (owner unknown)

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates


Last edited by the_shadock on Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

- the_shadock

Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles (USA) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13


The VMMV one was originally a G-13. They have modded it to look like an original Hetzer. I have before & after pictures...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd Panzer re-enacted in IL has one
There is also one in private hands here in MI
I think both are modded G13's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Some pics of the VMMV G-13, post-Hetzer mod:





Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

The Patton Museum's G13 / Hetzer:

I have more, but here is one from May 2005:




Several photos Linked here: Armor for the Ages: Atlanta June 05

Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:38 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

2nd panzer


Dave Crompton's
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Taranov
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 04, 2006
Posts: 344
Location: Moscow, Russia
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

BTW in Kubinka preserved only one Jagdpanzer 38 (t)


It's a late series vehicle, serial number 1775. Current painscheme - restored original painscheme of this Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Taranov, thanks for the info. I got some pics of this Hetzer in Kubinka, with 2 different paints and marking, and I thought they had 2 of those vehicles.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
zundappuk
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 65
Location: Behind the Westwall, really!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Original Hetzers in UK.

Bovington Tank Museum

Private owner, friend of mine (as seen at Beltring etc)

Unrestored example, Private owner.

The IWM Duxford example is a G13, but hull number indicates origianl re-worked.

David
Back to top
View user's profile
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:05 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I'd classify the Hetzer at MPW Warszawa as a wreck. Whenever I see pictures of it I wonder if someone was in it when it was hit *shrug*... "tin can" or "tin opener" comes to mind.

Link to MPW pictures:

MPW Warszawa pictures

Rik

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Andre_Flener
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 17
Location: G.D. of Luxembourg
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:19 pm
Post subject: G-13 at the Bastogne Historical Center

Re:

- Bastogne Historical center, inside the museum (Belgium) : not sure if it’s an original or a G13
- Bastogne Historical center, outside the museum (Belgium)


Salut Pierre-Olivier,

well, the Bastogne Historical Center has only one 're-germanized' G-13; which had been donated by the Swiss in the late 1970's.

Until the end of 2004 (year of the 60th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge), it had been on display in front of the building, first in winter-wash, then later in sandfarben colour. In 2004, the museum was a little bit renovated and the G-13 - repainted in an ambush scheme - moved inside, where it now stands inside the German diorama.

Some 'before/after' photos:

Pre-2004:


(Source of this image)

Post-2004:


(Source of this image)

Summary: it's the very same tank!

Hope this helps!

Regards,
André Flener
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Merci André.. Wink

One less Hetzer !! However it's always a pleasure to see one more tank "inside".

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

G-13 Tank Destroyer (??) - 2nd Panzer Division Association, IL (USA)

In new camouflage
www.flickr.com/photos/...559463281/
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

Hi P-O

there is also an G13 at the Overloon museum, modified to look like een WW2 Hetzer



Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
vmmv1
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 13, 2006
Posts: 75
Location: virginia
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Still existing Hetzer and G13 tanks

I am fascinated by the concept that there is a difference between a G 13 and a Hetzer. People act like they are two different things? If a Sherman is modified or rebuilt after the war and is given another name, then restored back to original configuration, no one calls it anything but a Sherman??? If a Hetzer is still carrying all its Swiss modifications, then it is a G-13, if it has been back dated to its original configuration, it is once again a Hetzer.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 4
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum