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Hey all

Well today I spent 5 hours in RMP. Todays special are a list of 'new' vehicles that were moved from different location onpost and now 'reside' in the friendly confines of RMP.

I was able to gain access & fully photograph the interiors of the following vehicles:

XM8000T Prototype ASRV
T29 Heavy Tank
T29E3 Heavy Tank
T30 Heavy tank

Additionally I attempted to get into the XM803 however wasn't able to get thru some difficult hatch welds, so I'll try additional efforts in the future.

With over 400 photos taken today, it'll take me a little while to sort thru them and get them posted. Patience.... Mr. Green

Stay tuned....
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- Dontos

Additionally I attempted to get into the XM803 however wasn't able to get thru some difficult hatch welds, so I'll try additional efforts in the future.


There is a solution Smile


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Actually I used a combination crow bar, hammer, chisel, and a battery powered saw. The batteries wore out before making a dent in the XM803, but they will be fully recharged on my next visit.

Soooooo, here is the first vehicle accessed this morning.

The XM800 T:

Drivers%20Compartment: Gunner%20/%20Turret%20info%20plates: There%20are%20hand%20written%20notes%20thru%20out%20the%20interior%20turret%20area,%20that%20appear%20to%20have%20been%20left%20over%20by%20the%20test/evaluation%20teams.

Sadly no vehicle data plate, and there appears to be a 55 gallon drum that is in the engine compartment, so I assume there is no pac.

Most of the components missing as is the gun. The barrel is welded in place.

More to follow, next come the Heavy Tanks....
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Next is the T29 Heavy Tank:

Rear%20of%20the%20Turret%20/%20TCs%20Position: Drivers%20Seat%20(Notice%20no%20data%20plate%20on%20the%20left%20hull%20wall:

A lot of the components are gone but there were some interesting items to photograph. Especially when you compare the other Heavy Tanks that are VERY similiar,.....those are to follow.

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The breech needs more grease. Laughing
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Next is the T29E3:

Right%20loaders%20Hatch,%20after%20being%20cut%20open,%20had%20to%20be%20blocked%20as%20it%20refused%20to%20open%20all%20the%20way.%20%20Also%20the%20right%20sight%20door%20opened. Plate%20located%20above%20the%20gunner%20sight%20area: Gun%20tube/breech%20stampings: The%20range%20finder%20/%20main%20sight%20was%20missing,%20this%20is%20the%20interior%20of%20the%20right%20side%20sight%20door: Drivers%20Seat.%20%20Notice%20the%20lower%20data%20plate%20is%20present.

I didn't want to crawl thru the filth on the turret floor to creep into the drivers seat to get a close up. I'll save that for another day.

Next, lets move on to the T30 Heavy Tank & its 155 mm main gun !!

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This is the T30 Heavy Tank:

I%20initially%20opened%20the%20ammo%20door%20on%20the%20right%20side%20of%20the%20turret: Then%20cut%20open%20the%20right%20side%20loaders%20hatch: In%20the%20hatch,%20looking%20left%20to%20the%20rear%20area%20&%20the%20TCs%20position.%20%20Note%20the%20breech%20is%20dismounted%20and%20sitting%20in%20the%20TCs%20area: Gunners%20Panel%20on%20the%20right%20side%20turret%20wall: The%20ammo%20hoist%20blocks%20the%20left%20side%20loaders%20hatch.%20%20I%20guess%20the%20155mm%20ammo%20was%20a%20bit%20heavy....%20(!?) The%20gun%20&%20chamber%20had%20been%20packed%20with%20grease.%20%20There%20is%20a%20large%20pile%20of%20it%20on%20the%20turret%20floor,%20which%20I%20initially%20thought%20was%20a%20huge%20pile%20of%20S***%20!?%20

Doug is that enough grease for you...???

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:40 pm
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It dawned on me that I may be one of the only people alive to have climbed into the T28, T29, T29E3, T30, T34, T43, as well as the M103A1 & M103A2. I guess you could say I've been fortunate to have been in almost all variants of the American Heavy Tank Program.

Wow, I feel sooo special.....ha ha ha.

Hope I have covered each of the above sufficiently. I plan on 'turret diving' these tanks again to get some additional photos 'for the record', prior to being shipped off to Ft Benning.

I still need to get into the XM 803 and the MBT 70 'PIGG' once it is moved to RMP.

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Don
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:13 pm
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- Dontos
It dawned on me that I may be one of the only people alive to have climbed into the T28, T29, T29E3, T30, T34, T43, as well as the M103A1 & M103A2. I guess you could say I've been fortunate to have been in almost all variants of the American Heavy Tank Program.

Wow, I feel sooo special.....ha ha ha.


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Don


You worked for, and earned, the privilege. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:44 am
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I noticed that the T29 & T30 seem to be the same. Of course except for the Gun Tube size.....

A few ID features did stand out,....

Turrets appear to be the same on the left side

T29:
T30: The%20rear%20and%20the%20back%20decks%20are%20slightly%20different.%20%20Obvious%20difference%20is%20the%20mufflers. Vehicle%20Rear%20Comparison T29: T30: Vehicle%20Rear%20Deck%20Comparison T29: T30:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:00 am
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Good photos and side-by-side comparisons too.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:15 am
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Do the turrets have the same P/N cast into them?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:06 pm
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Those are some serious honkin' gun travel locks. Looks like steel bridge architecture.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:13 pm
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- Dontos
Actually I used a combination crow bar, hammer, chisel, and a battery powered saw. The batteries wore out before making a dent in the XM803, but they will be fully recharged on my next visit.

Soooooo, here is the first vehicle accessed this morning.

The XM800 T:



Don



As there are separate driver's and fighting compartment hatches, I wonder what the primary purpose was in having the side access door...might it have been something intended as useful during test phase only and not to be included on production vehicles? Most other vehicles do their ammo loading through the top hatches, and this was just what, 20mm?
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