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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
ShermanWasRight Very early M60A1 turret casting. Unless modified, the loader's hatch should only have one open position vs the standard two. SN makes her an M60A3 Anniston rebuild. This should be the location: 39.185600, -84.651867, I always suspected they were the same. Thanks _________________ Joe_D

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:47 pm
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Additions from the Patton Museum in Chiriaco Summit, CA, as of late 2006:

M60A1 S/n 84x6 (can't read the 3rd digit)
M60A1 S/n 7126
M60A1 S/n 7157
M60A1 S/n 7181
M60A1 S/n 7187
M60A1 S/n 7535
M60A1 S/n 7548
M60A1 S/n 10187
M60A1 S/n 10228
M60A1 S/n 10354
M60A1 S/n 10369
M60A1 S/n 10375
M60A1 S/n 10414
M60A1 S/n 10429
M60A1 S/n 10442

I believe these are all formerly Marine tanks, probably from the Stumps nearby. They are scattered around the rear of the museum, several are outside the fence. Some are in pretty decent shape, others are missing multiple components as if they were cannibalized for spares. About half of them have preservative tape/film on many of the periscopes and vision blocks. One of them still has the reactive armor inert panels in place. I have pics of each listed here, with their front and rear serials. I'll post the pics in my gallery as I have time to upload them.

With luck I'll be able to confirm they are still there early next year (2010).

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:58 pm
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Next is Ft. Bragg, NC. This M60A0 is located in the new National Guard complex near where the old WWII barracks (we called them Splinter Village) were. The engine deck shows S/n 3087, but the front tow hook has a different number (155?). As you can see, there are several other vehicles there, which I will eventually get posted here.

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
And moving on... This bedraggled M60A3 (yes, the LRF door is on the other side) is in the 2nd ACR Museum o' The Swamp. She is S/n 3908A. More to come...I got some Lingles in my hard drive! Chuck _________________ A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. -Herm Albright Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!

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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:01 am
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Chuck,

Tanks a bunch on those Chiriaco summit M60A1's. I pretty much knew they were USMC tanks. 7000 series was from the initial Marine conversion to M60's from M48's. What's cool is the large grouping of very late 10,000 series tanks. They should all have one piece bustle racks. Those came from the late acquisition. Those are some of the last M60A1's ever made for the US.

That M60A1 SN 3087 back deck on that Fort Bragg M60 seems to be a common ailment with them. My theory is that happened in West Germany when many battalions had both M60's and M60A1's, since all the decks I've seen mis-matched on M60's were early M60A1 models. Good thing you were able to get the lug number.

Thanks for posting

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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:10 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Register
Guys, my work now takes me through Kinder and Elton, LA. Saw M60A3 in both towns and saw them listed in registry. I will take photos and get S/N's. Both appeare to have very recent 3 color CARC paintwork done.

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:55 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
Looking forward to the pics! Neil

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
Very interested in their Serial Numbers, Since the register either doesn't have it or a bogus one. _________________ Joe_D

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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
Confirmation: Green Township (Cinci, OH) M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 2470A; Unconfirmed1102 _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:01 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
As for the Belgium registry, the Dingo listed at Army Museum depot in KAPELLEN is now on display in Brussels. You can see it here: good-times.webshots.co...2038YNsJYW I was there just a few weeks ago. Massimo

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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Register
thanks Massimo There are always some movements going on, so that not always the same vehicles are shown. I'm working on a first revision of the register, will be ready one of the next days. Michel

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:01 pm
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Neil

Heres the updated index for RMP (Concrete area)

1 M60A3 MBT 2394A JJ04GP
2 M60A1 MBT 8678 JJ00XV
3 M60A3 MBT 3854A JJ04J9
4 M60A2 MBT 4666 JK007B
5 M60A3 MBT 836 JJ03QD
6 M60A1 MBT 4284
7 M-1 Abrams MBT D820 JZ01FS
8 M-1IP Abrams MBT D5121 JZ02LX
9 M37 SPA 40197995
10 M48A1 MBT 4372
11 M36B2 TD 484592
12 TAB 72 801D120009
13 T34 Heavy Tank (Prototype)
14a M578 ARV 507 12FJ44
14b M578 ARV 2658 BMY1965
14c M578 ARV
14d M578 ARV 2364 BMY 1742
15 LVT 6 (USMC) 108081
16 M51 ARV 42 (USMC) 229713
17 LVT (USMC) 21638
18 M4A3E8 Sherman Tank 61909
19 SP Luchs ARSV 80008
20 Churchill Inf Tank T252118K
21 M48A1 Med Tank 2400
22 Comet A34 Tank
23 M48A5E1 MBT (Prototype) 4494
24 Challanger (VC47) MBT 06SP41
25 Chieftain (Mk I) MBT 05M699
26 Centurion (Mk V) Tank 115-450III 10BA38
27 Leo 1 Type IIA (Prototype) M031 V907140
28 M2 Bradley (Pre-production) 3AA00054
29 M48A1 Med Tank 6888
30 M-1 TTB (Prototype) J2000C
31 M26 Med Tank 1773
32a M113A2 APC C2956 12HV51
32b M113A2 APC MAA24428
32c M113A2 APC C2840
32d M113A2 APC J20402
33a M981 FIST-V MAA22698
33b M981 FIST-V C3257
34 M577 Command Vehicle PAA03706
35 M4A4 Sherman ( w Spigot) 20026
36 M42 'Duster' 256 12C087
37 M51 'Isherman' Med Tank 810100
38 QM41
39 M26 Medium Tank 1761
40 MICV 65 (Prototype) 105 12FP19
41 M26A1 Medium Tank 1947
42 T34/85 135
43 M40 SPA
44 M47 Medium Tank 3200
45 AMX 13 Light tank 2ANO452 6680100
46 G13 (Hetzer) Jadgpanzer
47 M84 ARV 73362 628-0381
48 Srv 1030 (S-Tank) 202351
49 M75 APC
50 M84 APC 12D261
51 M84 APC
52 M84 APC 13C635

* T114 ASRV (Prototype)
* M114 ASRV 294
* M5 Stuart Light Tank
* WW II Shop Truck
* M35 2 1/2 ton Truck
* T43 Heavy Tank (Prototype) 1

Regards
Don

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:05 pm
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Don,
Many thanks - a few questions & points:
28) Thanks for the SN - its an M3 since it starts with 3AA... M2s start with 2AA...
31) I'm confused - you previously identified an M26 SN 1394; ex-Eglin Air Force Base. Was that a typo, or is 31 an additional Pershing?

Finally, here's the list of MIAs - vehicles that I have listed in storage, presumably at RMP, that you havent identified on your list. Some of these are presumably in storage buildings, but must leave a lot of others... (edited)

Ferret
Fox
M1 Abrams SN D1301, RN JZ01VZ; formerly at 16th Cav HQ
M3 Half-Track Modified
M4(105) Sherman SN 58235, RN 30105007
M4A1(75) Grizzly Shop No. 93; “Cindy;” formerly in the museum
M4A1(76) Sherman
M4A3(75) Sherman SN 49855; “Ole Henry;” formerly in the museum
M4A3(75) Sherman
M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65997; formerly at Abrams Center
M8 Greyhound
M18 Hellcat RN 40144616
M20 SN 2891-C1; Painted RN 60112366
M24 Chaffee RN 30121319; formerly at Brick Mess
M32A1B1 Formerly at Keyes Park
M41A1 Walker Bulldog RN 3200 3139; formerly Keyes Park?
M48 Patton RN 9A4687; Formerly at Harmon Hall
M48 Patton Fmrly at 16th Cav HQ & Wilson Rd Gate
M48A2C Patton RN 9B1344 or RN 9B1376
M48A5 Patton SN A10927
M59
M60 RN 9B3695
M60A1 RISE RN 9B4668
M60A1 RISE RN JJ00ZW
M60A1 RISE RN JJ010G
M60A3 SN 837(new bld M60A3), RN JJ03QA; formerly at Crecy Hall
M60A3 AAD rebuild SN 2304A, JJ04GP
M74 SN 73362
M551 Sheridan Painted RN 13F008; formerly in the museum
M551 Sheridan RN 13F158; Formerly at Harris Hall
M577 SN 465, RN 12T920
PzKpfw III Ausf H Formerly behind the Patton Museum
RSO Raupenschlepper Ost
Sd.Kfz. 10 Half-Track
Sd.Kfz. 234/4 PzSPW One of two survivors in the world

Neil

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:11 pm
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"Lower Storage Area"
BRDM 2 // K03TT000556
T72M1 MBT // X09BT5771
PT 76 // 1A-518504-96
Type 69 MBT // 39851110
YW 531C APC // J22983335
T72M1 MBT // Y11B15727
MTLB // 480197
BMP 1 // ZWJ38HNM
T55 (w/KTO armor)
BMP 1 // 78056400
T54 MBT // 5210_005
PzKw V ausf G (Panther) // 121455
PzKw III ausf F // 61007
PzKw IV
FT 18 // 9053-18
'Birddog' Airplane // 15000 /
M3A1 Light Tank // 8722 / 307155
M3 Light Tank // 158 / 301258

"Front Fense Line"
150mm How (Cz/Ger)
PAK 43 (towed)
M4 (105) Med Tank (Iraq)
T5, 90mm AT Gun
M2 Half Track // 4013126-5
FH 18 150mm How // L802-000
M37B1 Truck // 66652 / 3B9887
StuH 42 // 107572
'Russian AT Gun' (Iraq) // 13246
SCUD Missle // 8K14777215

"Back Fense Line"
M3 Light // 1343
M3A1 Light // 2564 / W304172
M3A1 Light // 6826
M3 Light // 793 / W303776
M16A1 GMC // 2474
M3A1 Scout Car // 297028 / W20190
Sd Kfz 138 Ausf M // 3419
Sd Kfz 165 // 320643
M4A3E8 Med Tank // 61079
M114 ASRV // 12T920
T17E1 Staghound // F221123
Sd Kfz 6 // 5512
M47 Med Tank (cutaway) // 20
M88A1 ARV // 9B4225
Sd Kfz 162/1 Jadgpanzer IV 320996

This does not include buildings, guess I need to get those...
Don

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers
Okay, thanks again, that was more info I didnt have and confirmed a few of the MIAs... I have edited the above list accordingly. Neil

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