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Open House AAR (LST/R.M.P./Patton Museum)
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Hey,........I recognize that picture!!

NOW THAT IS ONE HELL OF A GOOD PHOTOGRAPHER...!!!!!

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I have some others by that same guy...he's like, the W. Eugene Smith of Planet Knox! Laughing

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These are the other things I saw at Richardson Motor Pool, missing here is a large group of vehicles that were covered with tarps and parked so close together you couldn't get a picture.........



This one deserves a close-up for Bob since it's a 17th Cav bird. Laughing



Hey,........I recognize that picture!!

NOW THAT IS ONE HELL OF A GOOD PHOTOGRAPHER...!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:51 pm
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same vehicle



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Hey Don, would you believe I actually need the SN & RN of the museum's Ontos?

Neil


USMC # 226684 ( The RN )
SN: ?
Hull Stamp is 304

No Data Plate but I think 304 is a valid SN. The Corps seemed to use the USMC # as a means of ID.

I'm still trying to run down SN data on all the vehicles, then match with USMC# and any surviving Data Plate information.

Total vehicle #'s are the problem. There were 44 Prototypes built ( by my research, no hard figure seems to exist. ) 297 M50's were built in the production run. This is the total vehicle count. The M50A1 count is 176 (I'm not sure if this is an officia/accuratel number) of existing M50's. Thats the raw numbers as best as I can tell.

I'm still hunting for documents outlining/listing any actual vehicle build count and hopefully how they were 'counted'. Hull SN/ USMC #/ or what?...

Thats one of my biggest 'stumbling points' as of now.

Sorry for rambling on.
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This one deserves a close-up for Bob since it's a 17th Cav bird. Laughing


Hey! Who's the devilishly handsome pilot? Wink


A janitor at Richardson Tank Park...just put him in there for scale...
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This one deserves a close-up for Bob since it's a 17th Cav bird. Laughing


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Neil,
That is the Grizzly that used to be in the museum. It was moved out so it could participate as a runner in events like Life of the Soldier.

Nice pics, AJ. I still cringe a bit every time I come to the motor pool and see all of those vehicles and guns sitting outside. At least they have some cover, but it is not good to have them sitting outside with rodents chewing the wiring and building nests and who know what else happening to them. Crying or Very sad

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most likely this

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:39 am
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Here are the German vehicles I saw at Richardson Motor Pool, you will notice that lots are covered.....







Uh.... No idea...

Neil


This last one looks to me to be a Marder III Ausf M hull - either missing the weapon or possibly an AA version? I tend to believe that is the former.

Sad to see all these vehicles like this. Between the Aberdeen collection and this one, the US could have one heck of a nice Armor Museum.....

Great photos - thanks for sharing - wish I could have been there for that one.

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Hey Don, would you believe I actually need the SN & RN of the museum's Ontos?

Neil
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There's a third M4A1 in the museum collection now? I was aware of the Grizzly inside the museum, and the flamethrower in the LST building, but not a third... Although I have probably seen it before...

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Here are the German vehicles I saw at Richardson Motor Pool, you will notice that lots are covered.....




Thats a Swiss G-13 Hetzer...









Don previously told me thats the original paint job on this StuG III







Sd.Kfz. 251/9 Ausf D?







Sd.Kfz. 10 - I somehow missed it in the Patton Museum inventory before...









JgPz IV/70







Sd.Kfz. 6 Half-Track







Sd.Kfz. 223?







PzH 18/1 Hummel?

















Armyjunk2, nice set of pics of the Sd.Kfz. 234/4 PzSPW - one of two in the world. This one probably really should be on display... JMHO....







PzKpfw V Panther Ausf G, used to be on display behind the museum...







PzKpfw III Ausf F - ditto....







Uh.... No idea...

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These are the other things I saw at Richardson Motor Pool, missing here is a large group of vehicles that were covered with tarps and parked so close together you couldn't get a picture.........



This one deserves a close-up for Bob since it's a 17th Cav bird. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:26 pm
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ONTOS 3 pictures of one vehicle





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These are the other things I saw at Richardson Motor Pool, missing here is a large group of vehicles that were covered with tarps and parked so close together you couldn't get a picture.........



















































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