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armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

Fort Sill has done a great Job.........

the_shadock

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I have an idea, why not give everything to the Brits, French or Russians, they seem to know how to operate a tank museum or a artillery museum.

the artillery museum in Fort Sill is a very nice one.. and don"t forget that in France there is a lot of stuff stored in the open air at the Saumur Tank Museum !! and they don't have too much money

P-O

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

I have an idea, why not give everything to the Brits, French or Russians, they seem to know how to operate a tank museum or a artillery museum.

Roy_A_Lingle

Hi Everyone.

One thing to keep in mind is the staffs at the US Army museums have been cut way back.

The one here at Ft. Bliss had a staff of 8. Director, 2 support personal, and 5 curators. They are down to the 2 support (admin and diorama builder) and 1 curator. The 1th Cav Div museum at Ft. Hood is down to ONE person.

Spot report!
Sgt, Scouts out!

P.S.
It is my feeling that the CMH is slowing destroying the Army museum system.

Rick_Eshleman

Paul and Loren,
Thanks for the tips and sharing great Ft Dix photos. I'm going to try to coordinate with them on a trip and escort (if needed) to photograph the outside displays there. I've only 2 weeks vacation, and plan on going to Wife's destination on one week. Will see what they have. Rick

vagabond

Rick -

I suggest you contact the folks at the Ft Dix museum directly about visiting. Getting on base for us in March of 2012 required a stop at the visitor's center and a rather intensive process and it was a BIG help that the museum staff was expecting us. Lots of cool stuff to see so it is worth it.

Shameless Ft Dix Gallery Link:
www.vgbimages.com/AFV-...771_ZTFBmp

Rick_Eshleman

Piney, I still may check out if Dix is worth trip. I generally don't go out of my way to visit air shows/Museums even though I hit Dover, DE (just up Rt 1 from here) a few years ago. Rick

PS: They have a nice display!

piney

Rick, unless they have changed policy when I wasn't looking Dix (Now MDL superbase) was, and stil is, closed to the public after the attempted terror attack except for the yearly airshow at Maguire. I do know they have some exhibits, but I'm not sure how you can get to them

Rick_Eshleman

Carlisle, PA will never be APG, but it's in a new building, except, of course the displays which are outside. I did hear that a M3 Bradley IFV joined the collection last July, reason enough for me to revisit.
I'm still open to hit Ft. Dix, NJ as long as they have some displays (Did anyone hear otherwise?) this year. I'm also going to try the Boalsburg, PA Museum, and 1-2 places on way there (we'll see) or back. Rick

PS: Piney, don't forget my collection of APG and other items about same time you were at Aberdeen (1979 - Current) for a "virtual" APG.

Dontos

Doing pretty good. Work has kept me from any new projects though....

Regards
Don

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

you were there the day I was copying those CDs, How have you been??

Dontos

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[b]"I also copied around 60 cd's of Patton Museum photographs that sometime in the future I would like to post, when I get around to it. Again do I need permission? from who?
One more thing, I have 6GB's, maybe 4000 Hunnicutt photos, I have no idea what can or can not be posted...
I assume the Patton Museum cds are gone along with everything else there...
Anyone have any good ideas on this??

All you have to do is credit the individual collection or 'Armor Archives'.....or if you really wanna confuse, simply credit Patton Museum Archives since that's what they were when you obtained them....

I have a considerable amount of the digital archives, as I was making copies up until the day 'we' packed the library up...

...that's my secret stash....opps. I didn't say that...!! LOL!!

Regards
Don

armyjunk2 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 22, 2006 Posts: 1416

"there also used to be a computer disk available at the museum gift shop that had single shots of many of the vehicles. I paid $10 US for my copy. Since the gift shop is gone I wonder what may have happened to the existing stocks and or rights to it."I have a copy of this and it is copyrighted by The Ordnance Museum Foundation, Inc. If someone gets permission to post the photos I will post them.
I also copied around 60 cd's of Patton Museum photographs that sometime in the future I would like to post, when I get around to it. Again do I need permission? from who?
One more thing, I have 6GB's, maybe 4000 Hunnicutt photos, I have no idea what can or can not be posted...
I assume the Patton Museum cds are gone along with everything else there...
Anyone have any good ideas on this??

binder001 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 25, 2006 Posts: 363

Over the years it has been apparent that the museums are the "red haired stepchildren" of the US Army. The Air Force has a nice facility at Wright-Patterson, the USMC has a recent facility at Quantico, even the Navy supports some museums to a certain extent. The Army seems to have minimal interest in preserving its own history. In fact in the current political climate from Washington, the US Army seems a bit embarassed by having been involved in wars at all. The situation isn't all that new, look how Aberdeen languished for so many years. Supporting a museum isn't on the officers' career ladder. It used to be that there would be one or two bright spots, for a while it was Knox and the Patton Museum. Right now the only apparent bright spot appears to be at Ft. Sill where the Field Artillery Museum has quietly been doing some improvements and has even grabbed a few loose items from APG. The Army has some fascinating artifact vehicles, such as "Cobra King" but no one in the upper eschelons gives a damn. We have just had to digest the news of the largest private collection of restored AFVs being closed and the collection broken up. I'm curious about how having some new Armor Branch trainees or officer candidates look over some rusting claptrap will teach them anything about the history of their profession versus being able to sit in some fully restored examples of historic vehicles and being able to compare them with the new equipment they are being trained on.

piney · Last edited by piney on Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:18 pm; edited 1 time in total

Yes that would be a great project, not counting my digital stuff, I have a couple hundred Kodachrome slides somewhere in my storage building from the 1978 -1993 period, including the "Mile of Tanks" and the Elephant in about five different paint jobs. I also complied a chart of the vehicles around the museum building when I started going there in 1977

PS
there also used to be a computer disk available at the museum gift shop that had single shots of many of the vehicles. I paid $10 US for my copy. Since the gift shop is gone I wonder what may have happened to the existing stocks and or rights to it. There was also a great book called "Tiger Without a Home" about the Tiger I and it's history, it was also IIRC only available through the Gift shop for about ten dollars that I was fortunate enough to get on my last visit. Maybe Bob Smart still has some contacts and could get more information on these items,

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