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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:50 am
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re the "E boats" I am a bit confused, if you are referring to Lough Erne i.e. Castle Archdale there would not have been "E boats" on Lough Erne since "E boats" or Motor Torpedo boats and Motor Gun boats as these fast attack craft operating in Royal Navy Service were referred to, would have operated from coastal Waters not a inland lake. The Motor launches used to service the flying boats would look like from a distance very much similar an "E boat" motor gun boat / motor torpedo boat since the only basic difference between an RAF flying boat tender launch and such ships would be the RAF vessel would lack weapons and would be likely to have a somewhat different shaped hull below the waterline, I hope that clears things up for you and I have understood your comments correctly. So I don't think there would have been what you call "E boats pens" at castle Archdale. Futhermore with regard to the "E boat pens" since only a relative small number of flying boat tender launches would have been required [ and thus modest berthing facilities ], I would guess you are seeing one of the modern marina facilities.

the following vessel was built in 1945 but I have seen one of the tenders used on Lough Erne in a televsion documentary and it looked very much the same.

www.nhsc.org.uk/index....l/vref/542

And the following is just for information about boat types

www.bmpt.org.uk/boats/index.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:59 pm
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Dave has done a brillant job on Castle Archdale and it looks great

www.com-central.net/in...3&start=45

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:12 pm
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"One battleship, bearing 240º, distance 5 miles, course 150º. My position 49º 33' North, 21º 47' West. Time of transmission 1030/26."

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The Bismarck is Located.

In the morning of 26 May, as the Bismarck was approaching the French coast, the crew was ordered to repaint the top of the main and secondary turrets yellow. Hard job considering the state of the seas, nevertheless it was carried out although the yellow paint washed off at least once.


A few hours earlier, at 0300, two Coastal Command Catalina flying boats had taken off from Lough Erne in Northern Ireland on a reconnaissance mission in search for the Bismarck. At about 1010, Catalina Z of 209 Squadron commanded by Dennis Briggs sighted the German battleship that immediately answered with very accurate anti-aircraft fire.5 The Catalina jettisoned her four depth charges and took evasive action after her hull was holed by shrapnel. Then reported: "One battleship, bearing 240º, distance 5 miles, course 150º. My position 49º 33' North, 21º 47' West. Time of transmission 1030/26." After more than 31 hours since the contact was broken, the Bismarck had been located again. Unfortunately for the British, however, Admiral Tovey's ships were too far away from the German battleship. The King George V was 135 miles to the north, and the Rodney (with a top speed of 21 knots) was 125 miles to the northeast. They would never catch up with the Bismarck unless her speed could be seriously reduced.
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Dawn saw Coastal Command renew the aerial search with vigor. At 0835 Ark Royal joined the effort by launching 10 Swordfish to search the western semicircle, covering the 180o arc from south-southwest through north-northeast. At half past ten that morning, Pilot Officer Dennis A. Briggs, RAF, (carrying Ensign Leonard B. “Tuck� Smith, USN as co-pilot) flying Catalina Z of 209 Squadron from Lough Erne, Ireland, on the southernmost of the Bay patrols, sighted Bismarck. Although Bismarck immediately engaged the stranger with heavy and accurate fire, the Catalina was able to get off a fairly accurate sighting report before losing the battleship in the weather. His position report placed Bismarck 690 miles to the west-northwest of Brest and gave the pursuers less than 24 hours in which to intercept, after which she would reach the friendly umbrella of protection afforded by the Luftwaffe, and ultimately the sanctuary of port. Admiral Tovey’s only hope was to slow her down with yet another air strike, and the only carrier within striking distance was HMS Ark Royal coming up from the south.
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www.kbismarck.com/operheini.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:30 pm
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REPORT OF THE SCOUTING AND SEARCH FOR BISMARCK BY
ENSIGN SMITH

ISSUED BY THE INTELLIGENCE DIVISION
OFFICE OF CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATION
NAVY DEPARTMENT


INTELLIGENCE REPORT
Serial 1066 Monograph Index Guide No. 1005-600
From: Naval Attache at London, England Date: 9 June, 1941
Source: Personal Observation & Experience Evaluation: Reliable


Subject GREAT BRITAIN AVIATION Scouting & Search by PBY-5.

www.kbismarck.com/arch...eport.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:45 pm
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Catalina repaint for Castle Archdale hunt the Bismarck mission in Avsim Library

Category: Flight Simulator 2004 - Aircraft Repaints, Textures and Modifications
RAF PBY Catalina

File Description:
RAF textures for Mike Stones PBY Catalina, nose turret version.

Filename: rafct.zip
License: Freeware
Added: 30th September 2004
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Author: Henry William
Size: 2280kb

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:48 pm
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Hi Adrian, yes, I have that repaint and I'm using it. Thanks for the brill excerpts, I've now added them to the readme. It's about ready to upload now so I'll send you and Fled a copy and you can both test it please.
Thankyou so much for your help.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:59 pm
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The Cruise of the Bismarck

"Operation Rheinubung"

www.bismarck-class.dk/...hein1.html

spotting of the Bismarck by the 209 Squadron Catalina

www.bismarck-class.dk/...vered.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:26 pm
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H Adrian, Fled, Test zip for Castle Archdale a.k.a Spot The Bismarck.
Please look at it and tell me any errors or suggestions.
Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:25 pm
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Hi Dave, I down loaded the Castle Archdale Zip file, and was able to do a partial test on it, I say partial ie incomplete because I did not realize it required

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BRBLDv1.zip ( British Airfield Buildings v1 ) from www.flightsim.com.
You will also need to have the RWY12 LIbraries from the "Must Have Files" section of www.flightsim
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and installed it without those two items, so bear in my mind that in case any of the following issues ie 2 and 3 are due to non-instilation of those two items.

Dave it is an excelent piece of work, brillant!

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Re-create history as Flying Officer Dennis Briggs on his now famous training flight from Castle Archdale on Lough Erne, Fermanagh, N.I, in the newly aquired lend-lease Catalina Mk1 from the U.S., who spotted the German Battleship Bismarck some 300 miles off the Fench coast making her way to Brest, until she was eventually sunk by HMS Rodney and HMS King George V. on May 27st 1941.
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in the read me, that's an excellent synoposis but it is missing an important point because Briggs was under training by US Navy Aviator

Ensign Leonard B. Smith, USNR (US Naval Reserve) during the flight, and this is important historically since this happened prior to Pearl Harbour and Germany's declaration of War on the USA

see

www.history.navy.mil/f...q118-1.htm

perhaps you could amend the read me to,

Re-create history as Flying Officer Dennis Briggs on his now famous training flight under the instruction of Ensign Leonard B. Smith, USNR (US Naval Reserve) flying from Castle Archdale on Lough Erne, Fermanagh, N.I, in the newly aquired lend-lease Catalina Mk1 from the U.S., who spotted the German Battleship Bismarck some 300 miles off the Fench coast making her way to Brest, until she was eventually sunk by HMS Rodney and HMS King George V. on May 27st 1941.

[ I think you have a typo in the word "Fench" ie French. ]


[2] The trees on the green spaces between the taxi-ways at Castle Archdale make the taxi-ways too narrow for the wings of the Catalina

[3] I went in to the select flight [ my flights ] and chose the Castle Archdale flight that has one take off in the darkness, being lazy I keyed in the Latitude and longitude in to the map and jumped to the location of the Bismarck, but though I flew around for about twenty minutes or more, I could not see the Bismarck.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:17 pm
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Hi Adrian thanks for that. I will amend the readme to read as you stated.
The BGL (scenery file) for the Bismarck I used was made by someone else and actually places the her at N48* 10' W16* 12'. Maybe this is incorrect but I don't know how to alter it, maybe suggest in readme the location or widen search area?
I will look at the trees ok.
Thanks for your help.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:30 pm
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Hi Dave, I will ask in Cal Classics in a new thread about positioning a ship

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:59 pm
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Oke Doke Wink

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:03 pm
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www.calclassic.com/cgi...;start=0#0

my posting to Cal Classics re positioning the Bismarck

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Thanks Adrian, in the meantime can you see if you can spot it in it's current location just to make sure the textures work, ( N48* 10' W16* 12')
Much appreciated.
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- Nelson
Thanks Adrian, in the meantime can you see if you can spot it in it's current location just to make sure the textures work, ( N48* 10' W16* 12')
Much appreciated.
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Will Do

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