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$30 Million. I don't think any proposal at Aberdeen was ever that much

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The justification gives the budget breakdown:

PRIMARY FACILITY $24.308 Million
Museum Operations Support Bldg (130,690 square foot) $22.925 Million
Antiterrorism Measures $.379 Million
Sustainable Design and Development (SDD) and Energy Policy Act of
2005 (EPAct05) features $.378 Million
Building Information Systems $.263 Million
Intrusion Detection System $.213 Million

SUPPORTING FACILITIES $2.109 Million
Paving, Walks, Curbs & Gutters $.833 Million
Electric Service $.443 Million
Site Imp( 366) Demo( ) (not sure what that is) $.366 Million
Water, Sewer, Gas $.270 Million
Storm Drainage $.097 Million
Information Systems $.083 Million
Antiterrorism Measures $.017 Million

ESTIMATED CONTRACT COST $26.417 Million
CONTINGENCY (5.00%) $1.321 Million
SUBTOTAL $27.738 Million
SUPV, INSP & OVERHEAD (5.70%) $1.581 Million
DESIGN / BUILD - DESIGN COST $1.11 Million
TOTAL REQUEST $30.429 Million

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Sounds good. If I come visit, I'll look forward to seeing the tanks then using the swimming pool and jacuzzi..

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Well, the Bovington Tank Museum got about the same amount of money from the Heritage Lottery Fund for their new building - although when I first heard about that my thought was "the rich getting richer."

I doubt the new Ordnance Museum will be quite so snazzy or modern, but its long overdue regardless.

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Did Bovington get that much? Gosh. Today I saw an Abbot for sale for £5000 and thought - now I can afford to start a tank museum! Maybe I'll think again.

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The Tank Museum got £16 million from the Heritage Lottery Fund.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/usagapg/sets/72157623794807980/

some pictures of the Aberdeen vehicles move to Fort Lee (link provided by "Sander D").





Apparently, they already moved the Skeleton Tank..

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Thanks for the link P-O, I hadnt come across that before - will have to watch it.

BTW, I posted a full list of what's in storage at Fort Lee, but it appears to have been lost in the "Great Backup Catastrophe of 2009." Here it is again:

Crusader Mk III GBR std WD No. T126120?
KV-1C SOV std Only KV-1 in the US; SN 11302
M2 Medium with M2A1 turret USA std SN 2, RN 30445
M4A1(75) Sherman Calliope USA std SN 7320, RN 3058832
M4A4 Sherman USA std Experimental HVSS; SN 19617
M7B1 Priest USA std SN 3167, RN 4040083
M8 HMC USA std SN 339, RN 4051572; 1 of 5 in US
M10 GMC USA/ITA std SN 6196, RN 4011031
M22 Locust USA std RN 3023588
M24 Chaffee USA std “Skeeter;” SN 3874
M37 HMC USA std SN 75
M40 GMC USA std SN 840, RN 40195650; “Big Shot”
M55 USA std “Tiny Tim;” RN 12B320
PzJg Tiger(P) Elefant DEU std Kursk veteran; recovered from Italy
PzKpfw I Ausf B DEU std Recovered from Libya
PzKpfw IV Ausf D/E/F DEU std 75mm gun from Ausf N
Renault R-35 Model ZM FRA std
Semovente da 47/32 su L6/40 ITA std Captured at Tobruk
Semovente da 75/18 su M.41 ITA std Captured at Tobruk
Skeleton Tank USA std Only one built
SOMUA S 35 FRA std Recovered from Hilliersleben
T1E1 Heavy Tank USA std SN 24; pilot M6, only survivor
T88 HMC USA std Only 1 built; based on M18 Hellcat
T64E1 “Gorilla” HMC USA std M41 HMC pilot; SN 2, RN 40192778
T101 SPAT USA std SN 2; M56 Scorpion pilot

BTW, I'm trying to upload & organize all my Ordnance Museum photos to open albums in photobucket. See my post on the artillery forum for more info.

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by the way, what's this tank? I can't recognize it, using Neil's list..
It has rubber tracks and M3 Lee/early M7 Priest bogies/running gear.



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- the_shadock
by the way, what's this tank? I can't recognize it, using Neil's list..
It has rubber tracks and M3 Lee/early M7 Priest bogies/running gear.



P-O
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I don't know the answer, but the height and way the cover bulges looks right for a Lee, an M3A1 based on the curve at the top of the sides.

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well, it's indeed the M3A1 Lee "Lu Lu Belle", which seems to be part of the trip too. Another tank that is not on Neil's list but is shown on the photo gallery is the M18 Hellcat.

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I'll have to recheck my pics, but this appears to indicate these two parade ground vehicles are being stored somewhere separately from the rest at Fort Lee...

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Well the Parade ground is very empty, I think the T114 is the only thing left. And it wouldn't actually be an M18 but a T series with a 105mm howitzer instead of a 76mm

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The parade ground did have a T70 pilot for the M18 Hellcat tank destroyer. The T88 105mm HMC variant was originally stored in the fenced off lot with the motorpool vehicles.

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You're probably right. I shouldn't trust my memory since they had to move things around

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