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Photography/Camera Discussions & Tips
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Panasonic GH-2's review:
www.dpreview.com/revie...nicdmcgh2/

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I'm glad you had a good time anyway!

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I was indeed at Bovington without internet connection. I've took pictures of Challenger and Conqueror gateguardians at Stanley barracks. Then I've had a great time in the Museum (I'll open a dedicated thread)

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I've also written up the tanks at Lulworth, a taxi ride due south from the museum:

Preserved Tanks at Lulworth

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Massimo, I'm guessing that you're now at Bovington but don't have Internet access. I'm not sure how much help it will be to you, but I've started marking up the locations of solitary tanks around Bovington Camp. It's a bit of a walk to some of them. I've put up ATDU and the ones closest to the museum first:

Bovington Camp Solitary Vehicles

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I am scheduled to travel to Bovington later today. It will be my first visit ever.
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I didn't realise your trip was imminent. I started to mark up the locations of the tanks outside the museum, around Bovington Camp. Let me know if that would still be useful in time, and I'll work on it through this weekend.

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We discussed about tripods in the past. You can get far better pictures with them, but you get much less shots too because they are time consuming. Due to my modelling background I really love to take dozen of walkaround shots for each artifact; you just can't do that with a tripod Sad

Modern cameras keep improving low light and high ISO handling. That can help avoiding the tripod. But you have to be careful, find a good balance to avoid having too much noise in the pictures. Results may vary...

I am scheduled to travel to Bovington later today. It will be my first visit ever. I am not carrying a tripod with me. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Massimo

Thanks for posting to megashorts' flickr account and finding out about his use of the tripod at Bovington. There is definitely something to be said for preparing ahead of time and also for visiting museums during quieter times of year.

We visited the National Museum of Naval Aviation once in January and due to Mrs VB's outgoing nature, I ended up sitting in the cockpit of a P40B and a Pearl Harbor/Battle of Midway veteran SBD. Too cool!
All a result of being friendly and interested during a slower time for the museum staff.

If I get a chance to get to Bovington, I'll make sure I email ahead of time and get permission to use a tripod (or two!). Wouldn't want to miss the chance on the ONE opportunity I'd have to shoot in that location.
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BTW This guy on Flickr has some of the most impressive AFV pictures you can see online. He uses Olympus 4/3 (not M4/3, just plain 4/3):
www.flickr.com/photos/megashorts/


He started using M4/3 lately, an Olympus Pen E-P1.

Today I was looking into EXIF data on his pictures and I realized he indeed used a tripod in Bovington. Read the comments here:
www.flickr.com/photos/...972179614/

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Hi all,

We've been frequenting a very good photography site:

www.kenrockwell.com/

We have learned a lot from him - particularly about light and lighting - but much, much more as well.

Worth a look!
Happy shooting!
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Pany's GH2 (and it's predecessor GH1) are amazing for video. Full HD and continuous auto-focus (which neither Canon nor Nikon DSLRS are currently capable of).


That's a benefit of being mirroless. I am not into video, not yet at least, but I see mirroless cameras are getting traction and continuous auto-focus is a factor here. Sooner or later we will see some mirroless from Canon and Nikon too, Sony already launched the NEX and getting good sales. The EVFs will get better and better as well.


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The only area where I feel my Canon 50D does something better then the Pany G-1 is action photography such as aircraft in flight. My burst rate is faster and my 100-400 lens is killer good.


I guess fast auto-focus play a role here too. For typical AFV spotting it doesn't matter, but I shot some hockey from time to time, and one airshow once in a while, AF makes a huge difference in both scenarios.

BTW This guy on Flickr has some of the most impressive AFV pictures you can see online. He uses Olympus 4/3 (not M4/3, just plain 4/3):
www.flickr.com/photos/megashorts/

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Thanks for the feeback, very valuable info.

As for the deeper depth of field, for AFV spotting it's not a negative thing.
How about low-light erformances on the M4/3?

Have you seen the new monster Canon is working on? That would be nice to have for an airshow:
www.dpreview.com/news/...0400mm.asp

Unfortunately it's going to be big, heavy, and freaking expensive...

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Massimo,

While good glass for any system can be expensive, the M4/3 lenses are less expensive than their Nikon/Canon counterparts - for the most part. Mrs VB's Panasonic set-up cost us about 50% of what we paid for my Canon set-up.

The M 4/3 system was designed to be lighter and smaller than conventional DSLRs (not necessarily cheaper). The Panasonic EVF is without peer. It offers continuous live-view and therefore allows one to see the actual effects of exposure/white balance/ etc settings BEFORE one takes the shot. It makes it a lot easier to get the photo you want as the changes to settings are clearly visible.

Pany's have had articulated LCD screens for over 5 years - making it MUCH easier to do JoeD style overhead shots. Mrs VB can actually SEE what she's shooting vs me sticking the monopod up in the air and hoping! LOL!

The sensor is smaller and therefore gives a deeper depth of field - although one can achieve bokeh effects as well.

Pany's GH2 (and it's predecessor GH1) are amazing for video. Full HD and continuous auto-focus (which neither Canon nor Nikon DSLRS are currently capable of).

We have been very happy with Mrs VB's Panasonic G-1 and plan on upgrading to the GH2 in the near future.

The only area where I feel my Canon 50D does something better then the Pany G-1 is action photography such as aircraft in flight. My burst rate is faster and my 100-400 lens is killer good. Although Pany has just come out with their 100-300 which with the 2x crop will give Mrs VB a reach of 35mm equivalent 200-600mm. We plan on renting one for airshows. I'll let you know our thoughts. It weighs 1/3rd of what my Canon 100-400 weighs and costs about 2/3rds less.

Cheers!
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For those not familiar with 4/3 and M4/3 cameras:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...rds_system

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This past summer we rented a 7-14mm ultra-wide for Mrs VB to try on her M4/3 Panasonic as well as the Olympus E-30 (to stay with a 4/3 system). Tested the lens out at a few AFV museums and an airshow. Learned a lot and it was money well spent (not much money, actually). Smile


Talking about 4/3 and M4/3, my feeling is that from a pure technical point of view could be a good alternative to Canon/Nikon, but are that much cheaper? Looks like good lenses are expensive, no matter the system/brand you use. Based on your experience, do you think M4/3, as a system, could be a cost-effective alternative?

Myself, I am already invested in Canon, I have large hands and like big camera's ergonomics, but I wonder if it would be worth for Trevor to look outside Canon/Nikon.

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