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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:33 am
Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers

Biggest problem I have is access,

All I need is a few minutes to confirm SN's and RN's, although I'd like at least 2 hours to take some pictures Smile

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Thanks Joe! That clears up all the "MIA" Knox M60s Smile

Although I do wonder about the LST Building M60 SN - no stamp or data plate?

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Neil,

Was at Knox this last Saturday,

M60 RN 9B3695 LST (Only M60 in collection)
M60A1 SN 3078, RN 9B7257 Skidgel Hall
M60A1 SN 4284, RN 09B8957 Richardson Motorpool (RN not confirmed)
M60A1 SN 5106, RN 09B04668 inside Patton Museum
M60A1 SN 6241, RN 09A05172 Brave Rifles and Wilson Roads
M60A1 SN 6346, RN 09A09872 Quinn Hall
M60A1 SN 7109, USMC 399630 USMC DET Bldg 2372 (Not SN 7108)
M60A1 SN 8587, RN JJ010G North Gate
M60A1 SN 8679, RN JJ00XV Richardson Motorpool
M60A1 SN 8692, RN JJ01JR West point HWY 31W
M60A1 SN 9349, RN JJ00ZW Copple center (RN not confirmed)
M60A1 SN 9357, RN JJ00ZZ Patton museum outside
M60A1 RN 09A12771 LST
M60A2 SN 4666, RN JK007B Richardson Motorpool
M60A3 SN 836, RN JJ03QD Richardson Motorpool
M60A3 SN 837, RN JJ03QA Crecy Hall (was not moved, still there this weekend)
M60A3 2004A, RN JJ0457 North Gate
M60A3 2278A, RN JJ04D9 MATES Site (cannot confirm this since being painted)
M60A3 2304A, RN JJ04GP No such tank, is actually SN 2394A
M60A3 2394A, RN JJ04GP Richardson Motorpool (was ID's with RN JJ040P)
M60A3 2448A, RN JJ04J9 Sadowski Field House
M60A3 3621A, RN JJ009C LST
M60A3 3854A, 09B13769 Richardson Motorpool

Hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks I'll have it locked down.

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A small correction: the M32 ARV that's listed as being at AMVETS post 2256 in Circleville, Ohio is actually located at an American Legion post at 23363 US Hwy 23 S; it's displayed with a flagpole mounted in the middle of it.

Coordinates are, aproximately:
39°35'23.90"N
82°57'16.33"W

Now that school is out for the summer I may be able to go photograph the vehicle at some point. Hope this helps.
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Thanks again Don - that helps. A few left:

M48A2C Patton RN 9B1376 is at the old Chaffee gate, but that still leaves RN 9B1344...

The M551 at Wilson Rd Gate has been described as "Former Armor Basic Course OPFOR" - so could it be the same as the one that was at Harris Hall?

That Unknown M577 looks like an error or typo - same SN/RN as an M114...

That leaves the following Unknowns/MIAs;

M4A1(76) Sherman
M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65997; formerly at Abrams Center
M48A2C Patton RN 9B1344
M60 RN 9B3695
M60A1 RISE RN 9B4668
M60A1 RISE RN JJ00ZW
M60A1 RISE RN JJ010G; formerly at AWTS
M60A3 SN 837(new bld M60A3), RN JJ03QA; formerly at Crecy Hall
M60A3 AAD rebuild SN 2304A, JJ04GP
M74 SN 73362
M551 Sheridan RN 13F158; Formerly at Harris Hall

Plus the Abrams that went to ???

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Only M18 in collection is the one in the LST....

M48A2C Patton RN 9B1344 or RN 9B1376

Chaffee Ave

M48A5 Patton SN A10927

RMP Building 6118 (?)

M59

Keyes Park

M60 RN 9B3695

LST Building has only M60 -slick-

M60A1 RISE RN 9B4668
M60A1 RISE RN JJ00ZW
M60A1 RISE RN JJ010G
M60A3 SN 837(new bld M60A3), RN JJ03QA; formerly at Crecy Hall
M60A3 AAD rebuild SN 2304A, JJ04GP

Joe D may have better clue....

M74 SN 73362

unknown

M551 Sheridan Painted RN 13F008; formerly in the museum

RMP Building 6113

M551 Sheridan RN 13F158; Formerly at Harris Hall

Wilson Road Gate ??

M577 SN 465, RN 12T920

-Unknown-

PzKpfw III Ausf H Formerly behind the Patton Museum

RMP in Lower Storage Area(Behind Panther 'G'

RSO Raupenschlepper Ost

RMP in Storage Connex

Sd.Kfz. 10 Half-Track

RMP Building 6114

Sd.Kfz. 234/4 PzSPW

RMP Building 6113

Hows That??
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Thanks,
Any info on where that Abrams went to? Do you remember a Hellcat in the museum collection and just dont know where it is now, or just plain dont remember one at all...

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- Neil_Baumgardner

Ferret

(Storage Connex -RMP)

Fox

RMP Building 6116 (?)

M1 Abrams SN D1301, RN JZ01VZ; formerly at 16th Cav HQ

Repainted at KY MAITs shipped to new location in KY

M3 Half-Track Modified

RMP Building 6114)

M4(105) Sherman SN 58235, RN 30105007

RMP Building 6114

M4A1(75) Grizzly Shop No. 93; “Cindy;” formerly in the museum

RMP Building 6118(?)

M4A1(76) Sherman

-Unknown-

M4A3(75) Sherman SN 49855; “Ole Henry;” formerly in the museum

RMP- 'Back Fence Line'

M4A3(75) Sherman

RMP Building 6118 (?)

M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65997; formerly at Abrams Center

-Unknown-

M8 Greyhound

RMP beside Building 6118

M18 Hellcat RN 40144616

-unknown-

M20 SN 2891-C1; Painted RN 60112366

RMP Building 6118 (?)

M24 Chaffee RN 30121319; formerly at Brick Mess

Bullion Blvd Gate ??

M32A1B1 Formerly at Keyes Park

Keyes Park

M41A1 Walker Bulldog RN 3200 3139; formerly Keyes Park?

Keyes Park

M48 Patton RN 9A4687; Formerly at Harmon Hall
M48 Patton Fmrly at 16th Cav HQ & Wilson Rd Gate

Both at RMP

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Okay, thanks again, that was more info I didnt have and confirmed a few of the MIAs... I have edited the above list accordingly.

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"Lower Storage Area"
BRDM 2 // K03TT000556
T72M1 MBT // X09BT5771
PT 76 // 1A-518504-96
Type 69 MBT // 39851110
YW 531C APC // J22983335
T72M1 MBT // Y11B15727
MTLB // 480197
BMP 1 // ZWJ38HNM
T55 (w/KTO armor)
BMP 1 // 78056400
T54 MBT // 5210_005
PzKw V ausf G (Panther) // 121455
PzKw III ausf F // 61007
PzKw IV
FT 18 // 9053-18
'Birddog' Airplane // 15000 /
M3A1 Light Tank // 8722 / 307155
M3 Light Tank // 158 / 301258

"Front Fense Line"
150mm How (Cz/Ger)
PAK 43 (towed)
M4 (105) Med Tank (Iraq)
T5, 90mm AT Gun
M2 Half Track // 4013126-5
FH 18 150mm How // L802-000
M37B1 Truck // 66652 / 3B9887
StuH 42 // 107572
'Russian AT Gun' (Iraq) // 13246
SCUD Missle // 8K14777215

"Back Fense Line"
M3 Light // 1343
M3A1 Light // 2564 / W304172
M3A1 Light // 6826
M3 Light // 793 / W303776
M16A1 GMC // 2474
M3A1 Scout Car // 297028 / W20190
Sd Kfz 138 Ausf M // 3419
Sd Kfz 165 // 320643
M4A3E8 Med Tank // 61079
M114 ASRV // 12T920
T17E1 Staghound // F221123
Sd Kfz 6 // 5512
M47 Med Tank (cutaway) // 20
M88A1 ARV // 9B4225
Sd Kfz 162/1 Jadgpanzer IV 320996

This does not include buildings, guess I need to get those...
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Don,
Many thanks - a few questions & points:
28) Thanks for the SN - its an M3 since it starts with 3AA... M2s start with 2AA...
31) I'm confused - you previously identified an M26 SN 1394; ex-Eglin Air Force Base. Was that a typo, or is 31 an additional Pershing?

Finally, here's the list of MIAs - vehicles that I have listed in storage, presumably at RMP, that you havent identified on your list. Some of these are presumably in storage buildings, but must leave a lot of others... (edited)

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M1 Abrams SN D1301, RN JZ01VZ; formerly at 16th Cav HQ
M3 Half-Track Modified
M4(105) Sherman SN 58235, RN 30105007
M4A1(75) Grizzly Shop No. 93; “Cindy;” formerly in the museum
M4A1(76) Sherman
M4A3(75) Sherman SN 49855; “Ole Henry;” formerly in the museum
M4A3(75) Sherman
M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight SN 65997; formerly at Abrams Center
M8 Greyhound
M18 Hellcat RN 40144616
M20 SN 2891-C1; Painted RN 60112366
M24 Chaffee RN 30121319; formerly at Brick Mess
M32A1B1 Formerly at Keyes Park
M41A1 Walker Bulldog RN 3200 3139; formerly Keyes Park?
M48 Patton RN 9A4687; Formerly at Harmon Hall
M48 Patton Fmrly at 16th Cav HQ & Wilson Rd Gate
M48A2C Patton RN 9B1344 or RN 9B1376
M48A5 Patton SN A10927
M59
M60 RN 9B3695
M60A1 RISE RN 9B4668
M60A1 RISE RN JJ00ZW
M60A1 RISE RN JJ010G
M60A3 SN 837(new bld M60A3), RN JJ03QA; formerly at Crecy Hall
M60A3 AAD rebuild SN 2304A, JJ04GP
M74 SN 73362
M551 Sheridan Painted RN 13F008; formerly in the museum
M551 Sheridan RN 13F158; Formerly at Harris Hall
M577 SN 465, RN 12T920
PzKpfw III Ausf H Formerly behind the Patton Museum
RSO Raupenschlepper Ost
Sd.Kfz. 10 Half-Track
Sd.Kfz. 234/4 PzSPW One of two survivors in the world

Neil


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Neil

Heres the updated index for RMP (Concrete area)

1 M60A3 MBT 2394A JJ04GP
2 M60A1 MBT 8678 JJ00XV
3 M60A3 MBT 3854A JJ04J9
4 M60A2 MBT 4666 JK007B
5 M60A3 MBT 836 JJ03QD
6 M60A1 MBT 4284
7 M-1 Abrams MBT D820 JZ01FS
8 M-1IP Abrams MBT D5121 JZ02LX
9 M37 SPA 40197995
10 M48A1 MBT 4372
11 M36B2 TD 484592
12 TAB 72 801D120009
13 T34 Heavy Tank (Prototype)
14a M578 ARV 507 12FJ44
14b M578 ARV 2658 BMY1965
14c M578 ARV
14d M578 ARV 2364 BMY 1742
15 LVT 6 (USMC) 108081
16 M51 ARV 42 (USMC) 229713
17 LVT (USMC) 21638
18 M4A3E8 Sherman Tank 61909
19 SP Luchs ARSV 80008
20 Churchill Inf Tank T252118K
21 M48A1 Med Tank 2400
22 Comet A34 Tank
23 M48A5E1 MBT (Prototype) 4494
24 Challanger (VC47) MBT 06SP41
25 Chieftain (Mk I) MBT 05M699
26 Centurion (Mk V) Tank 115-450III 10BA38
27 Leo 1 Type IIA (Prototype) M031 V907140
28 M2 Bradley (Pre-production) 3AA00054
29 M48A1 Med Tank 6888
30 M-1 TTB (Prototype) J2000C
31 M26 Med Tank 1773
32a M113A2 APC C2956 12HV51
32b M113A2 APC MAA24428
32c M113A2 APC C2840
32d M113A2 APC J20402
33a M981 FIST-V MAA22698
33b M981 FIST-V C3257
34 M577 Command Vehicle PAA03706
35 M4A4 Sherman ( w Spigot) 20026
36 M42 'Duster' 256 12C087
37 M51 'Isherman' Med Tank 810100
38 QM41
39 M26 Medium Tank 1761
40 MICV 65 (Prototype) 105 12FP19
41 M26A1 Medium Tank 1947
42 T34/85 135
43 M40 SPA
44 M47 Medium Tank 3200
45 AMX 13 Light tank 2ANO452 6680100
46 G13 (Hetzer) Jadgpanzer
47 M84 ARV 73362 628-0381
48 Srv 1030 (S-Tank) 202351
49 M75 APC
50 M84 APC 12D261
51 M84 APC
52 M84 APC 13C635

* T114 ASRV (Prototype)
* M114 ASRV 294
* M5 Stuart Light Tank
* WW II Shop Truck
* M35 2 1/2 ton Truck
* T43 Heavy Tank (Prototype) 1

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Register

thanks Massimo

There are always some movements going on, so that not always the same vehicles are shown. I'm working on a first revision of the register, will be ready one of the next days.

Michel
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:01 am
Post subject: Re: USA (NOW V3.0!), Canada, France and Belgium AFV Registers

As for the Belgium registry, the Dingo listed at Army Museum depot in KAPELLEN is now on display in Brussels. You can see it here:
good-times.webshots.co...2038YNsJYW

I was there just a few weeks ago.

Massimo
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:48 am
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Confirmation:
Green Township (Cinci, OH)
M60A3 USA out AAD rebuild SN 2470A; Unconfirmed1102


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