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Pierre-Olivier,
This is an interesting question & a good subject for debate. In general, I think the Czeck tanks have been considered "German" for two basic reasons: 1) Bohemia & Moravia was directly incorporated into the Reich; specifically Skoda was brought into the German industrial base; 2) the LT 38 first entered service with the German army as the PzKpfw 38(t) - it was designed for, but never entered service with the Czechoslovak army. The LT-35 was used by the Czechoslovak army, but saw actual combat service with the German army from 1939-~1942.

Also, keep in mind you've already done one non-German subject: FT-17s. No reason you cant branch out further. Czech tanks are a good spin-off subject from German tanks. After that you could start on other French tanks!

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Neil,

I already finished to list the Hetzers and G-13 and published the PDF file :

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Hetzers_G13.pdf

but I have problems to connect to the server via the software Filezilla so I just can't update the website for the moment. I'll retry this evening..
Now I have listed the majority of the tracked vehicles produced by Germany, including the foreign vehicles heavily modified (that is to say, not only by changing a radio set or some accessories, but with heavy modifications to the structure).
I would like to create PDF files for LT 35s / PzKpfw 35s, LT 38s / PzKpfw 38s too, but the question is : how to consider which vehicles are German and which are not. For example the Wehrmacht used french tanks FT-17, Renault R35, Somua S-35, but could we consider these as German tanks? Could I consider LT-35 (t) and LT-38 (t) as German tanks or as foreign vehicles re-used by the Wehrmacht, and why?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:09 am
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Pierre-Olivier, great site and listings.

If I could put in a request for your next set, how about Czech tanks & variants? Ie LT 35s / PzKpfw 35s, LT 38s / PzKpfw 38s, Hetzers, etc. I noticed they (Hetzers especially) werent covered in the Surviving Modified Foreign Vehicles file.

Congrats & thanks again!

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- toadmanstankpictures
Nice job P-O!! You and Neil are going to cost me lots of money now that I know where to see all of these afv's!! BTW, I didn't see Jacques Littlefield's Pzkpfw IV Ausf. H, www.toadmanstankpictur.../pziv.htm, in the PDF. Did I miss it? I can shoot some hi-resolution pics of it for you in a couple of weeks if you'd like.

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sorry I just... forgot it. Shame on me..

anyway I'm interested by your pics.

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Nice job P-O!! You and Neil are going to cost me lots of money now that I know where to see all of these afv's!! BTW, I didn't see Jacques Littlefield's Pzkpfw IV Ausf. H, www.toadmanstankpictur...m/pziv.htm in the PDF. Did I miss it? I can shoot some hi-resolution pics of it for you in a couple of weeks if you'd like.

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(Editted to make the linky work-Doug)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:40 pm
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Hello,

Here you will find a website listing the vast majority of surviving German WW2 tanks :


Surviving Panzers


There are also French and Soviet WW2 tanks listed on this website, along with WW1 tanks.

check for updates..

Any comments, new photos or anything else is the most welcome.

Pierre-Olivier


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