±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 867
Total: 867
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Member Screenshots
03: Statistics
04: News Archive
05: Statistics
06: Photo Gallery
07: Member Screenshots
08: Home
09: Community Forums
10: News Archive
11: Downloads
12: Home
13: Downloads
14: Downloads
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Member Screenshots
19: Your Account
20: News Archive
21: News Archive
22: Downloads
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: News Archive
27: Member Screenshots
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Member Screenshots
35: Home
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Your Account
48: Photo Gallery
49: Home
50: Community Forums
51: Member Screenshots
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Home
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Downloads
66: Community Forums
67: Member Screenshots
68: Home
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Your Account
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Member Screenshots
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Home
94: Community Forums
95: Downloads
96: Member Screenshots
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Downloads
105: Community Forums
106: Member Screenshots
107: Community Forums
108: Photo Gallery
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Your Account
115: Your Account
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Member Screenshots
120: Community Forums
121: Home
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Photo Gallery
127: Community Forums
128: Member Screenshots
129: Member Screenshots
130: Photo Gallery
131: Member Screenshots
132: Home
133: Home
134: Photo Gallery
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Home
140: Photo Gallery
141: Community Forums
142: Statistics
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Downloads
147: Your Account
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: News Archive
158: Downloads
159: Member Screenshots
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Downloads
165: Statistics
166: Home
167: Photo Gallery
168: Community Forums
169: Member Screenshots
170: Community Forums
171: Downloads
172: Member Screenshots
173: Photo Gallery
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Member Screenshots
178: Community Forums
179: Member Screenshots
180: Treasury
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Member Screenshots
187: Home
188: Photo Gallery
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Member Screenshots
195: Photo Gallery
196: Community Forums
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Contact
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: News
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Photo Gallery
211: Photo Gallery
212: Community Forums
213: Home
214: Downloads
215: Community Forums
216: Member Screenshots
217: Member Screenshots
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Your Account
221: Community Forums
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Photo Gallery
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Member Screenshots
229: Community Forums
230: Downloads
231: Photo Gallery
232: Community Forums
233: Home
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: News Archive
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Photo Gallery
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Member Screenshots
252: Photo Gallery
253: Home
254: Member Screenshots
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Home
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Member Screenshots
271: Home
272: News Archive
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Member Screenshots
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Member Screenshots
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Member Screenshots
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Member Screenshots
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Member Screenshots
301: Community Forums
302: Photo Gallery
303: Member Screenshots
304: Community Forums
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Community Forums
310: Photo Gallery
311: Community Forums
312: Home
313: Downloads
314: Photo Gallery
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Member Screenshots
318: Member Screenshots
319: Member Screenshots
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Member Screenshots
329: Community Forums
330: Member Screenshots
331: Photo Gallery
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Photo Gallery
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Photo Gallery
341: Community Forums
342: Community Forums
343: Member Screenshots
344: Photo Gallery
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Photo Gallery
348: Photo Gallery
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Member Screenshots
354: Photo Gallery
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Downloads
361: Member Screenshots
362: Community Forums
363: Home
364: Photo Gallery
365: Member Screenshots
366: Community Forums
367: Home
368: News Archive
369: News Archive
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: News Archive
375: Community Forums
376: Your Account
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Photo Gallery
383: News Archive
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Photo Gallery
387: Community Forums
388: Statistics
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Home
395: Community Forums
396: Downloads
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Home
402: Community Forums
403: Member Screenshots
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: Contact
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Community Forums
410: Home
411: Community Forums
412: Downloads
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Downloads
418: Home
419: Your Account
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Member Screenshots
428: Downloads
429: Home
430: Home
431: Member Screenshots
432: Photo Gallery
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Downloads
439: Photo Gallery
440: Community Forums
441: Photo Gallery
442: Member Screenshots
443: Home
444: Community Forums
445: Photo Gallery
446: Photo Gallery
447: Community Forums
448: Your Account
449: Community Forums
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Home
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Home
467: News Archive
468: Community Forums
469: Member Screenshots
470: Photo Gallery
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: News Archive
475: Downloads
476: Downloads
477: News Archive
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Home
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Your Account
486: Member Screenshots
487: Photo Gallery
488: News Archive
489: Community Forums
490: Home
491: Community Forums
492: Member Screenshots
493: Member Screenshots
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Your Account
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Photo Gallery
501: Home
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Member Screenshots
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Home
510: Home
511: Member Screenshots
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Photo Gallery
516: Photo Gallery
517: Home
518: Photo Gallery
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Home
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Photo Gallery
533: Community Forums
534: Photo Gallery
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Home
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Downloads
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Home
550: Downloads
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Member Screenshots
554: Home
555: Photo Gallery
556: Community Forums
557: Your Account
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Downloads
561: Photo Gallery
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Photo Gallery
570: Community Forums
571: Downloads
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: News Archive
575: Home
576: Photo Gallery
577: Home
578: Photo Gallery
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Home
582: Community Forums
583: Member Screenshots
584: Statistics
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Photo Gallery
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Photo Gallery
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: Community Forums
597: Home
598: Your Account
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Community Forums
606: Photo Gallery
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Home
610: Home
611: LinkToUs
612: Member Screenshots
613: Home
614: Home
615: News Archive
616: Member Screenshots
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Home
621: Photo Gallery
622: News Archive
623: Community Forums
624: Photo Gallery
625: Downloads
626: Your Account
627: Member Screenshots
628: Community Forums
629: News Archive
630: Home
631: Downloads
632: News Archive
633: Community Forums
634: Home
635: Community Forums
636: Home
637: Member Screenshots
638: Photo Gallery
639: Member Screenshots
640: Member Screenshots
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Member Screenshots
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: News
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Home
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Photo Gallery
656: Downloads
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Photo Gallery
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: News Archive
664: Community Forums
665: Community Forums
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Your Account
669: Photo Gallery
670: Downloads
671: Home
672: Home
673: Photo Gallery
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: News Archive
678: Member Screenshots
679: Member Screenshots
680: Community Forums
681: Member Screenshots
682: Member Screenshots
683: Photo Gallery
684: Community Forums
685: News Archive
686: Home
687: Home
688: Downloads
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Community Forums
692: Community Forums
693: Downloads
694: Community Forums
695: Home
696: Member Screenshots
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Community Forums
700: Photo Gallery
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Photo Gallery
704: Member Screenshots
705: News Archive
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Member Screenshots
713: Your Account
714: Member Screenshots
715: Community Forums
716: Downloads
717: Your Account
718: Photo Gallery
719: Photo Gallery
720: Community Forums
721: Photo Gallery
722: Community Forums
723: Community Forums
724: Community Forums
725: Community Forums
726: Member Screenshots
727: Community Forums
728: Community Forums
729: Home
730: Photo Gallery
731: Home
732: Community Forums
733: Photo Gallery
734: Member Screenshots
735: Community Forums
736: Community Forums
737: Community Forums
738: Community Forums
739: Community Forums
740: Community Forums
741: Community Forums
742: Photo Gallery
743: News Archive
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Community Forums
747: Community Forums
748: Community Forums
749: Member Screenshots
750: Photo Gallery
751: Member Screenshots
752: Community Forums
753: Home
754: Community Forums
755: Member Screenshots
756: Member Screenshots
757: Member Screenshots
758: Member Screenshots
759: Community Forums
760: Community Forums
761: Community Forums
762: Community Forums
763: Community Forums
764: Community Forums
765: Community Forums
766: Community Forums
767: Community Forums
768: Downloads
769: Community Forums
770: Community Forums
771: Community Forums
772: Community Forums
773: Member Screenshots
774: Community Forums
775: Community Forums
776: Community Forums
777: Member Screenshots
778: Community Forums
779: Community Forums
780: Community Forums
781: Photo Gallery
782: Community Forums
783: Community Forums
784: Community Forums
785: Community Forums
786: Home
787: Member Screenshots
788: Community Forums
789: Member Screenshots
790: Community Forums
791: Community Forums
792: Community Forums
793: Member Screenshots
794: Photo Gallery
795: Downloads
796: Community Forums
797: Community Forums
798: Community Forums
799: Community Forums
800: Community Forums
801: Community Forums
802: Downloads
803: Community Forums
804: Community Forums
805: Community Forums
806: Photo Gallery
807: Community Forums
808: Community Forums
809: Member Screenshots
810: Community Forums
811: Member Screenshots
812: Member Screenshots
813: Community Forums
814: Community Forums
815: Member Screenshots
816: Downloads
817: Community Forums
818: Community Forums
819: Community Forums
820: Downloads
821: Community Forums
822: Community Forums
823: Home
824: Photo Gallery
825: Photo Gallery
826: Community Forums
827: Community Forums
828: Community Forums
829: Photo Gallery
830: Member Screenshots
831: Community Forums
832: Community Forums
833: Community Forums
834: Home
835: Home
836: Community Forums
837: Your Account
838: Community Forums
839: Community Forums
840: Home
841: Community Forums
842: Member Screenshots
843: Photo Gallery
844: Statistics
845: Community Forums
846: Home
847: Community Forums
848: Community Forums
849: Community Forums
850: Community Forums
851: Community Forums
852: Home
853: Your Account
854: Community Forums
855: Photo Gallery
856: Community Forums
857: Community Forums
858: Community Forums
859: Community Forums
860: Your Account
861: Home
862: Photo Gallery
863: Home
864: Community Forums
865: Community Forums
866: Community Forums
867: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:28 pm
Post subject: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Any of you T34 experts out there identify which production model this is?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

More photos?

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

metagini.com/location/.../Pictures/
m24expert.blogspot.com...ation.html
Back to top
View user's profile
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Only dogs are visible by the first link :-))).

It seems to me, this is a war-time 34-85. Turret made by 183th plant (UVZ).
Was modernized by "1960" program.

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

- Koluchiy
Only dogs are visible by the first link :-))).

It seems to me, this is a war-time 34-85. Turret made by 183th plant (UVZ).
Was modernized by "1960" program.


Woof!
It's the "Tank Gates Aexandriya park" link.

Big photo, the plaque says something about Czechoslovakian Brigade, 4th September (?) 1944 and German-Fascists.
(I took Russian at school, but that was over 30 years ago!)

"VOINAM RADYASKOI ARMII TA CHEKOSLOVASKOI BRIGADI YAKI 4 SICHIYA 1944 ROKOO ZVILNILI MISTO VILOO TSERKVOO VID NIMNYESTKOO FASHISTSKIX ZAGARBNIKIV"
Back to top
View user's profile
JiriTintera
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Posts: 218
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Note

In 2010 the Ukrainian government issued an official conversion table between the Ukrainian cyrillic and English alphabet - see www.glebov.com.ua/en/a...ation.html


According to this table, I would like to submit a transfer of the original text:
Voyinam Radyans'koyi Armiyi ta Czekhoslovats'koyi bryhady. Yaki 4 sicznya 1944 roku zvil'nyly misto Bilu Tserkvu vid nimets'ko-fashysts'kykh zaharbnykiv.

9 travnya 1970 roku



Free translation and note in parentheses:
For soldier of the Soviet Army and the Czechoslovak Brigade. Who 4 January 1944 was liberated city Bila Tserkva (the city's name probably originated by the white-painted church, or an entire village) from German fascist usurpers.

9 May 1970 (date of establishment of the monument)
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Big photo, the plaque says something about Czechoslovakian Brigade, 4th September (?) 1944 and German-Fascists.
(I took Russian at school, but that was over 30 years ago!)

"VOINAM RADYASKOI ARMII TA CHEKOSLOVASKOI BRIGADI YAKI 4 SICHIYA 1944 ROKOO ZVILNILI MISTO VILOO TSERKVOO VID NIMNYESTKOO FASHISTSKIX ZAGARBNIKIV"


It seems to me the hull is also made by 183th plant...
This is Ukranian language, not Russian...

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

ooops.
Silly me assumed it was Russian, must be like assuming Welsh is English, just because we use the same alphabet!
Back to top
View user's profile
JiriTintera
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Posts: 218
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:24 am
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Dear Sirs,
I asked for help a colleague who specializes in Soviet tanks T-34 (on the subject published a book).

His present to answer:
"This is a T-34/85 production fall 1944 to spring 1945. She still has a distinct contact of frontal plates. In the spring started to boil boards together.

The tower was built in Plant No. 183 Nizhny Tagil.

The tank was not renovated in the 60th years! This means that it has no wheels like T-54/55, a metal rectangular box and lid with embossed "X". Tank is on the right side non-standard fixing two shovels. On the right is a console lamp. T-34 tanks have these things on the left side.

The hull is Ural production. Interesting hinges are at the rear armor plate, these are not produced in a factory in Nizhny Tagil. The fuselage reminds products of the Plant No. 174 Omsk."

A colleague has a suspicion that the tank was assembled from several parts of different vehicles. Therefore not able to determine whether the tank from Omsk, or Nizhny Tagil.

Note:
Wings and things like that can be easily manufactured and mobile services' workshop.

Link to photos:
piccy.info/view3/14742...3bd5/1200/
piccy.info/view3/14742...ac30/1200/
piccy.info/view3/14742...6e43/1200/
piccy.info/view3/14742...c26e/1200/


Last edited by JiriTintera on Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:42 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

That is some very good information you have there.

Great source.
Back to top
View user's profile
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

The tank was not renovated in the 60th years! This means that it has no wheels like T-54/55, a metal rectangular box and lid with embossed "X".


8-0

If we looking at the photo:
www.flickr.com/photos/...168939236/
we can see 1 "like T-54 wheel" and a "metal rectangular box".

???

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
JiriTintera
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Posts: 218
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Dear Colleague,
thanks for the link on the photo left side of the tank T-34-85, which was unknown to us.

Sorry,
that we have provided incorrect information to who covered the modernization in the 60th years.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:57 am
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Ok, but the link to this photo was in the first posts of the topic...

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
JiriTintera
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Posts: 218
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:39 am
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

Dear Sirs,
present to supplement the previous information.

My colleague who specializes in T-34 wrote:

"Travelling wheel
Wheel type T-54/55 is the only one on the left rear side. On the right side of the rear wheel is cast steel. Other bikes look like the original.

Holders
On the left side of the box with the X embossed on the lid are placed in unexpected places holders for small tanks or smoke MDSh.

On the right side of the front armor of the console is likely to mount an IR headlight."

Summary
It's certainly not the modernization of the sixties, it is rather confused idea Soviet politruk (Political commissar) of the tank as it appeared in 1944.

Repair 21 September 2011


Last edited by JiriTintera on Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:36 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Koluchiy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Bila Tserkva T34-85 monument

it is rather confused idea Soviet politruk (Political commissar) of the tank as it appeared in 1944

I do not understand the phrase about Soviet politruk...
Can anybody explain, what does it means?

_________________
RTY on other forums;

Looking for Pz.IV manuals D 653/2 Erzatsteilliste(pictures), D 653/10, D 653/25 (Handbuch fur den Panzerfahrer), D 653/50b, D 653/50c, D653/51
Looking for Maybach HL120 repair instruction...
(Copyes or scans)
Can pay money or exchange
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum