±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 482
Total: 482
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Home
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Home
11: Downloads
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Home
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Home
21: Home
22: Home
23: Downloads
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Home
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: News Archive
37: Home
38: Photo Gallery
39: Home
40: Home
41: Home
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Downloads
45: Home
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Home
49: Home
50: Home
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Downloads
60: Home
61: Home
62: Home
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Home
67: CPGlang
68: Home
69: Your Account
70: Home
71: Photo Gallery
72: Downloads
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Home
81: Home
82: Home
83: Home
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: CPGlang
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Downloads
92: Home
93: News Archive
94: Photo Gallery
95: Home
96: Downloads
97: News Archive
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: CPGlang
102: Home
103: Home
104: Home
105: Home
106: Downloads
107: Photo Gallery
108: CPGlang
109: Community Forums
110: Home
111: Downloads
112: Home
113: CPGlang
114: Photo Gallery
115: Statistics
116: Home
117: Home
118: Home
119: Community Forums
120: Home
121: Home
122: Photo Gallery
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Home
131: Community Forums
132: News Archive
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Home
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: Downloads
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Home
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Home
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: Photo Gallery
151: Statistics
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: Photo Gallery
156: Home
157: Home
158: Home
159: CPGlang
160: Downloads
161: Home
162: Community Forums
163: Home
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Home
167: Home
168: Home
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Home
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Photo Gallery
177: Photo Gallery
178: Photo Gallery
179: Photo Gallery
180: Member Screenshots
181: Home
182: Home
183: Home
184: Home
185: CPGlang
186: Home
187: Home
188: Home
189: Home
190: Home
191: Home
192: Home
193: Downloads
194: Home
195: Home
196: Home
197: Home
198: Home
199: Home
200: Home
201: Member Screenshots
202: Photo Gallery
203: Home
204: Photo Gallery
205: Home
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: News Archive
209: Home
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: CPGlang
214: Home
215: Home
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Downloads
219: Community Forums
220: Home
221: Home
222: Home
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Search
227: Photo Gallery
228: Community Forums
229: Photo Gallery
230: Home
231: Member Screenshots
232: Community Forums
233: Downloads
234: Photo Gallery
235: Photo Gallery
236: Statistics
237: Community Forums
238: CPGlang
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Home
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Your Account
249: Home
250: News Archive
251: CPGlang
252: Home
253: Home
254: Home
255: Home
256: CPGlang
257: Community Forums
258: Home
259: Home
260: Photo Gallery
261: Your Account
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: CPGlang
265: Community Forums
266: Home
267: Community Forums
268: Home
269: Community Forums
270: Photo Gallery
271: Home
272: Home
273: Home
274: Home
275: Photo Gallery
276: Community Forums
277: Downloads
278: Home
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Home
282: Community Forums
283: Home
284: Home
285: CPGlang
286: Community Forums
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Home
290: Community Forums
291: Home
292: Home
293: Home
294: Community Forums
295: Home
296: Home
297: Home
298: Home
299: Home
300: Community Forums
301: Home
302: Member Screenshots
303: News
304: CPGlang
305: Photo Gallery
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Home
311: Home
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Home
315: Home
316: Home
317: Home
318: Home
319: Home
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Home
323: Home
324: Home
325: Community Forums
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: Home
329: Home
330: Photo Gallery
331: Home
332: Home
333: Home
334: Statistics
335: Home
336: Home
337: Home
338: Community Forums
339: Home
340: Home
341: Your Account
342: Community Forums
343: Your Account
344: CPGlang
345: Home
346: Home
347: CPGlang
348: Community Forums
349: Home
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Home
357: Home
358: Photo Gallery
359: Photo Gallery
360: Home
361: Treasury
362: Home
363: Home
364: Home
365: Home
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Your Account
369: Member Screenshots
370: Community Forums
371: Member Screenshots
372: CPGlang
373: Home
374: Home
375: Community Forums
376: Photo Gallery
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Community Forums
380: Home
381: Statistics
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Photo Gallery
385: Home
386: Home
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Home
390: Downloads
391: Home
392: Home
393: Statistics
394: Statistics
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Photo Gallery
399: Community Forums
400: Home
401: Photo Gallery
402: Home
403: Home
404: Member Screenshots
405: Community Forums
406: Home
407: Home
408: Home
409: Home
410: Your Account
411: Home
412: Home
413: Home
414: Home
415: Home
416: Home
417: Photo Gallery
418: Home
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Downloads
422: Home
423: Community Forums
424: Photo Gallery
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Downloads
431: Home
432: Home
433: Community Forums
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Community Forums
438: Home
439: Community Forums
440: Home
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: Community Forums
444: Home
445: Home
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: Home
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Downloads
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Community Forums
458: Home
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Home
462: Home
463: Community Forums
464: Home
465: Community Forums
466: Home
467: Community Forums
468: CPGlang
469: Home
470: Home
471: News Archive
472: Home
473: Home
474: Home
475: Community Forums
476: Home
477: Photo Gallery
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Home
481: Community Forums
482: Your Account

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:15 am
Post subject: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

Weather wasnt exactly too great today. Seemed to get better, then we (my friend & I) went out to take pictures it started coming down again. Of course it cleared again as we were leaving.

The pictures in the rain are obvious... Hopefully I'll get another chance to get up there again in the next month or so...

Czech LT-35 in German colors in the museum parking lot. Staff said it may be repainted again in Czech colors.



The Somua S-35 just came out of refurb, looks pretty good. These were taken as the rain started letting up.





KV-1C, also recently out of refurb. Lots of rain...



M4A2 Sherman with a Firefly turret. Lots & lots of rain..



Neil



Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:46 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

Is that one of the M3 Scout cars behind the Firefly?

And I'm going to be lobbying Ed to change the markings on the LT-35.
They were also used by Roumania. I would like to see some new markings represented in the collection and if we can get authentic Roumanian or Czech markings I'd really like it.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])


Last edited by bsmart on Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:50 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:47 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

Did you happen to ask anybody about when or if they plan on working on the Elefante? Or how about when the Tiger I is expected to come back?

Why repaint something that in good shape when so much else needs work (refering the the Czech tank here)?

My parents live in Delaware - will be visiting them later this year, but I don't know if they could stand me making another trip to the Proving Ground.

Thanks - great pics.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:54 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

- jcneel
Did you happen to ask anybody about when or if they plan on working on the Elefante? Or how about when the Tiger I is expected to come back?

Why repaint something that in good shape when so much else needs work (refering the the Czech tank here)?

My parents live in Delaware - will be visiting them later this year, but I don't know if they could stand me making another trip to the Proving Ground.

Thanks - great pics.

cn


The elefante is a real sore point. They almost burnt out a couple HEMTT ( I think that is the proper name for the modern tank transporters) the last time they tried to load it. The feeling is they need to get two large cranes to lift it and let the transporter roll under it then lower it. The thing is it rolls very well but the road next to the railhead isn't sturdy enough to take the weight. So it continues to sit at the railhead.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:07 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

The Somua looks great!

It along with the LT and KV look almost like they're in running condition. I assume they aren't, though?
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:19 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

No, generally the "restorations" are cosmetic only. No money & no requirement to have them as runners. Keep in mind most NASM aircraft restorations are the same way.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
jcneel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 101
Location: Victoria, Texas
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

- bsmart
The elefante is a real sore point. They almost burnt out a couple HEMTT ( I think that is the proper name for the modern tank transporters) the last time they tried to load it. The feeling is they need to get two large cranes to lift it and let the transporter roll under it then lower it. The thing is it rolls very well but the road next to the railhead isn't sturdy enough to take the weight. So it continues to sit at the railhead.


Them Army boys need to learn to think outside the box. I work at a chemical plant where we have some heavy construction going on. There are companies that specialize in moving large, heavy loads that could move the Elefante without breaking a sweat - probably wouldn't take them more the 4 hours to load it out and move it. There are transporters designed to distribute the loads and give a low ground pressure (lots of wheels, lots of 'em) so could move it down the road with no problem. These transporters can also turn on a dime. They're pretty nifty.

With as much industry up the the North East, there's bound to be someone up there that can do this.

cn
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:15 pm
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 & KV-1

That is why I said it is a sore subject. Yes there are companies to move heavy loads. The problem is MONEY

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Cloudy
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:00 pm
Post subject: Re: A few pictures from APG - LT-35, M4A2 "Firefly," S-35 &

The Somua & Panzer 35(t) look great - especially the 35(t). I'd leave it in panzer gray.

Alan
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum