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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
Some sort of prime mover/tank tractor I assume? Neil Last edited by Neil_Baumgardner on Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:54 am; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Inactive Ordnance Museum files
Some notable US vehicles... M3A3 Lee T14 heavy assault tank M6A1 heavy tank An interesting prime mover - Walter Model Adum... Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Inactive Ordnance Museum files
Some experimental tank models... T20E3 T22 T23s M4A2E4 Sherman with experimental wide-track torsion bar suspension Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Inactive Ordnance Museum files
Two interwar tanks & some Shermans & Sherman-based vehicles... T2E1 Light Tank T4E1 Medium Tank M4A3 Sherman with T1E4 Mine Exploder T5 TRV converted to Mine Exploder Vehicle T72 GMC T52 GMC - gotta love a ball-turret Sherman even if it was a flop... M4A2E1 Sherman Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
Another interwar tank & more Shermans... T1E4 Light Tank M4A3(105) Sherman with T121 twin MG mount M4A4 Sherman with Allis-Chalmers suspension M4A6 Sherman Plus another T23 Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
M32A1 Tank Recovery Vehicle Another T23 T13 Trackless Tank T55E1 Cook Interceptor Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
Last set of US vehicles M4A3E1 Sherman M4A3E3 Sherman And yet another T23 Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
Foreign vehicles. Sd.Kfz. 251 SPW Crusader Mk II Type 2 Ka-Mi, apparently pre- & post-cutaway... This could be the one that was formerly at Camp Pendleton and is now presumably in storage in Barstow CA. Type 97 Te-Ke Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
More foreign vehicles. Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma Type 97 Chi-Ha Bergepanther Type 94 TK Type 1 Ho-Ki APC Enough for tonight. Maybe more sometime later this weekend... Neil

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive fi
The 8x8 vehicle looks like the Sterling T26E3. Alan

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive fi
- Cloudy The 8x8 vehicle looks like the Sterling T26E3 Damn he beat me to it _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
Nice set of images - bit of a damning inditement of that idiot that scrapped a load of vehicles in the 1950s tho... _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive files
The rear end of that SdKfz 251 sure looks odd, did they remove it for some reason? Alan

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: ID Help Needed/more from the Ordnance Museum inactive fi
Hi Neil! Hi Folks! Alan and Jim are correct. Here is a photo of it pulling a T58E1 trailier with a T26E1 tank on board. Photo is from U.S. Military Wheeled Vehicles by Fred W. Crismon. That book has stats and a few more photos. Follow up spot report! Sgt, Scouts Out! _________________ "You can never have too much reconnaissance." General G.S. Patton Jr.

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:49 am
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- JimWeb

Nice set of images - bit of a damning inditement of that idiot that scrapped a load of vehicles in the 1950s tho...

True, although we dont necessarily have confirmation that all of these (or firm info for almost any of them) were actually scrapped. Some may have been transferred to other collections/museums, and possibly others still are "behind the fence" (albeit more doubtful). But yes, more than likely, most were scrapped...

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