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Ft. Snelling Military Museum - Pics #3
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Here's the third installment since I've received no bricks thus far. Laughing























































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Nit Pic Twisted Evil I don't think the 110 was a "Howitzer". Seems like it was called a "Field Gun" or something like that.

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Nit Pic Twisted Evil I don't think the 110 was a "Howitzer". Seems like it was called a "Field Gun" or something like that.


When I heard those arty guys make a distinction (other than "gun"), I heard them refer to the 8 incher as a "howitzer" and the 175 as a "rifle".
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Hey,

if you want to build a house, get your bricks elsewhere. Laughing

Thanks Bob, another load of usually neglected vehicles, can't wait for the next installment.

Mark, the 8-incher M110 was designated a self-propelled howitzer, the 175mm M107 was the self-propelled gun. Cool

So, what the heck is an "improver" road? And isn't it quaint to read the term track-laying vehicle? Wink
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Hey,

isn't it quaint to read the term track-laying vehicle? Wink


Document Type and Number:United States Patent 4739849 Link to this page:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4739849.html

Abstract: "A track-laying vehicle of the type which has an engine, transmission, operators cabin, running wheels and tracks which extend around the running wheels, has a compound support structure consisting of a torsionally rigid, generally planar rectangular chassis frame which carries the engine, the transmission and the operator's cabin. The running wheels and tracks, by contrast, are mounted upon a wheel-carrying frame and is substantially coextensive with an underside thereof. The wheel-carrying frame is torsionally compliant and is connected to the chassis frame by a plurality of elastic journals."

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The only way you'll get bricks from this crew is if you tell them you have pictures you WON'T post Twisted Evil

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I would have thought someone would have pointed out that the 'M110' is, in fact, an M110A2...

Cool

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Mark, the 8-incher M110 was designated a self-propelled howitzer, the 175mm M107 was the self-propelled gun. Cool



Thanks! I had them confused.

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I would have thought someone would have pointed out that the 'M110' is, in fact, an M110A2...

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I've got a hunch those M548s aren't without an additional designator either... Cool
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'nother nitpick;

The "M7B1" is actually an M7B2 - note the raised howitzer mount (for increased elevation) and extra deep "pulpit" for the MG ring.

The vehicle started life as an M7B1 but was rebuilt.

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I would have thought someone would have pointed out that the 'M110' is, in fact, an M110A2...

Cool


I've got a hunch those M548s aren't without an additional designator either... Cool


Can't tell because of that noticeboard...

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'nother nitpick;

The "M7B1" is actually an M7B2 - note the raised howitzer mount (for increased elevation) and extra deep "pulpit" for the MG ring.

The vehicle started life as an M7B1 but was rebuilt.

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Yep,

it certainly is. Speaking of which, does anybody have an inkling how long they were in service with the NG and/or the Reserves? Were the ones Germany received in 1956 pulled from stocks or were they just being mustered out and came from NG/Reserve units?

Inquiring minds want to know... Wink
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- MarkHolloway
Nit Pic Twisted Evil I don't think the 110 was a "Howitzer". Seems like it was called a "Field Gun" or something like that.


For My 2 cents, I am a bit confuzed here because I am not sure everyone is talking about the same M110.

M110A0 and M110A1 8 inch howitzer, the first two versions which had a short barrel. Later replaced by the M110A2.

M107A0 and M107A1 175mm field gun which was replaced by the M110A2.

M110A2, the two vehicles in Bob (A109)'s photos, the combined howizter/field gun, which was a 8 inch/203mm bore with the length of a field gun so it could do both types of fires missions from the same hull.

Along with Mark, I remember red legs calling the "A2" version a field gun also.

So, for you folks who have copies of the manuels on that thing, is the correct name for the "A2" still "howitzer" or did it change when the short howitzer barrel was replaced by the longer barrel?

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M110A0 and M110A1 8 inch howitzer, the first two versions which had a short barrel. Later replaced by the M110A2.


M110 short barrel
M110A1 long barrel
M110A2 long barrel with muzzle brake


M107A0 and M107A1 175mm field gun which was replaced by the M110A2.


Basically all they did was replace the barrels. IIRC M107 were, initially, upgraded to M110A1 and M110 - M110A2. Eventually they all became M110A2


M110A2, the two vehicles in Bob (A109)'s photos, the combined howizter/field gun, which was a 8 inch/203mm bore with the length of a field gun so it could do both types of fires missions from the same hull.


As a rule of thumb guns used to fire between 0-45 degrees and howitzers 45 -90 degrees. The distinction between them became blurred in the 70s when both types, basically, acquired a larger variety of bag charges and became capable of firing at any angle

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Hi Jim! Hi Folks!

- JimWeb

The distinction between them became blurred in the 70s when both types, basically, acquired a larger variety of bag charges and became capable of firing at any angle

Cool .


Very true, and don't even start talking about modern mortars.

However, that still doesn't answer my question:

"Along with Mark, I remember red legs calling the "A2" version a field gun also.

So, for you folks who have copies of the manuels on that thing, is the correct name for the "A2" still "howitzer" or did it change when the short howitzer barrel was replaced by the longer barrel (which had the muzzle brake added)?"

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