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Roy_A_Lingle
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:18 pm
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Is that a Whippet without the gas tank on the front end?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:32 pm
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hi

the munster's 234/4' actualy was swapped with teh one that is in the tank museum Now many years ago so i should think it did run. everything else seems to run in muster.
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Is that a Whippet without the gas tank on the front end?

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Nope,

it's a Stridsvagn m/21-29 from the period between the wars, built by Landsverk from 1929 on- I seem to remember it was based on a German design, but don't quote me on that.
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hi

the munster's 234/4' actualy was swapped with teh one that is in the tank museum Now many years ago so i should think it did run. everything else seems to run in muster.
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D'oh, I'd completely forgotten about that... Still not a runner, though, some of Bovvy's modifications have been replaced, but it's unlikely it will ever be a runner again, there seems to be a lack of spares. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:56 am
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Hi Folks!

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Is that a Whippet without the gas tank on the front end?

Sgt, Scouts Out!


Nope,

it's a Stridsvagn m/21-29 from the period between the wars, built by Landsverk from 1929 on- I seem to remember it was based on a German design, but don't quote me on that.


Yes, it is a German design that was to late to be used in WW1. They were German made but assembled in Sweden from parts marked "tractor parts and roof plating" (Germany was forbidden to make tanks). The vehicle in Munster is a former monument tank that was transfered in 1992. The assembly of the m/21 was carried out at the Swedish Navy yards. It was modernized in 1929 by Landsverk, hence the m/21-29 designation.

In 1938 one vehicle was returned to Germany on German request as they had kept none for themselves, this vehicle disappeared during WW2.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:55 am
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Was the Hummel and SdKfz 251/7 acquired from the Patton Museum? At one time an earlier Hummel and 251/7 were part of the collection and were returned/traded to Germany.


From the information I have both the Hummel and the SdKfz 251/7 came from the Patton museum, 15 years apart though. The Hummel was sent to Munster in 1976 and the SdKfz in 1991. The other Hummel's I have on record for Germany is one at Sinsheim and one at Koblenz (ex. APG).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:33 am
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Hello from Texas,
For some reason I can not see you photos. could you please send the HS 30 photos to me?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:41 am
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Was the Hummel and SdKfz 251/7 acquired from the Patton Museum? At one time an earlier Hummel and 251/7 were part of the collection and were returned/traded to Germany.


From the information I have both the Hummel and the SdKfz 251/7 came from the Patton museum, 15 years apart though. The Hummel was sent to Munster in 1976 and the SdKfz in 1991. The other Hummel's I have on record for Germany is one at Sinsheim and one at Koblenz (ex. APG).


I knew about the Hummel, but its good to know that the 251/7 also came from 'here'. I only learned about its former presence here a couple of years ago, and feared it may have been the victim of 'recycling drive' (shudder).

251/9 is in 'active' restoration, and hopefully will get completed in the near future.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:52 am
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Several years ago this Belgian M47 (Belgian r/n 28803) was noted outside. Last September the only M47 is the one inside the museum.

Is there someone who knows if it is the same tank???

The serial of the one inside in German colours is 7103.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:56 am
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Then some serial / registrationnumbers of the leopards inside;

Leopard 1A2A1
R/n Y-114302, s/n 14085

Leopard 1A4
R/n Y-882485, s/n 15105, former 4 kie/293Pzbat

Leopard 1A5
R/n Y-128441, s/n 6512X (hull is a former Leopard 1A2A1)

Leopard 2A4
R/n Y-412002, s/n 10330
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