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OPFOR `77
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: OPFOR `77
Scaned these in for a reply on a different site, but thought some of you might get a kick out of the hippies hanging out on Ivan's tanks. These were shot down in the motor hole at Hohenfels in `77. This stuff came from Israeli sources, there were Hebrew name tags all over the driver's panels. T54(Tiran4) T62 T62, BTR60, and T54 T54 being slaved off from a M60A2 T54 with hippies

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:41 am
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Hi Tanker2010! Hi Folks!

Hohenfels in `77?

We must have just missed each other!

I saw that collection of vehicles during the winter of 76/77 at Hohenfels.

I remember there was a BTR-152 APC and one of the guys in the tour group said something along the lines of "this is not a real Russian vehicle, that engine is the same one that is in the M-35 2.5 ton truck.

If I remember right, the tour guide said that Russian spare parts were not available through the NATO system and they had to used what they could get. It was hard not to LOL at the guy who made the claim that the 152 was a fake.

Some of my old history.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: Re: OPFOR `77
Something I hadn't thought about before The one picture shows a Tiran being slaved off an M60. Had the Israelis modified the electrical system to be compatable with western systems or are standard Soviet vehicles compatable already? _________________ Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:37 am
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Hi Bob! Hi Folks!

- bsmart

The one picture shows a Tiran being slaved off an M60. Had the Israelis modified the electrical system to be compatable with western systems or are standard Soviet vehicles compatable already?

If the IDF hadn't changed out the electrical system, my guess would be the same team the put that M35 truck engine in the BTR152 modified all those vehicles with US batteries and jumper cable connections.

The longer we used those things the more conversions I'm sure they needed to keep them working.

My 2 cents,
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: Re: OPFOR `77
All US tactical vehicles are 24V negative ground, right? I assume that is a NATO standard, am I right? What voltage are Soviet vehicles? I assume they have a standard that all are built to? _________________ Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)

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