±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: HighestAce
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6648

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 447
Total: 447
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: CPGlang
02: Community Forums
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: CPGlang
06: Home
07: Member Screenshots
08: Home
09: CPGlang
10: Member Screenshots
11: Photo Gallery
12: Photo Gallery
13: CPGlang
14: Home
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: CPGlang
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Member Screenshots
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Member Screenshots
25: Community Forums
26: Member Screenshots
27: Member Screenshots
28: CPGlang
29: Community Forums
30: Photo Gallery
31: Home
32: Member Screenshots
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Member Screenshots
37: Member Screenshots
38: Member Screenshots
39: Community Forums
40: CPGlang
41: Member Screenshots
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: CPGlang
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: CPGlang
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Member Screenshots
56: Photo Gallery
57: Photo Gallery
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Home
62: News Archive
63: CPGlang
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: CPGlang
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Home
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: News Archive
74: Member Screenshots
75: Member Screenshots
76: CPGlang
77: Photo Gallery
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Member Screenshots
81: Treasury
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Downloads
85: Community Forums
86: Photo Gallery
87: Home
88: Community Forums
89: Home
90: Home
91: Community Forums
92: CPGlang
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Community Forums
99: News Archive
100: Home
101: Photo Gallery
102: Community Forums
103: CPGlang
104: Home
105: CPGlang
106: Home
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: CPGlang
111: Home
112: Member Screenshots
113: CPGlang
114: Photo Gallery
115: Member Screenshots
116: CPGlang
117: Member Screenshots
118: Community Forums
119: CPGlang
120: CPGlang
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Member Screenshots
129: CPGlang
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: CPGlang
133: News Archive
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Home
137: News Archive
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Member Screenshots
141: Community Forums
142: Member Screenshots
143: Member Screenshots
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Home
147: CPGlang
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Member Screenshots
151: Home
152: News Archive
153: CPGlang
154: CPGlang
155: CPGlang
156: Your Account
157: News Archive
158: CPGlang
159: Home
160: Photo Gallery
161: Photo Gallery
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Home
166: Home
167: Home
168: CPGlang
169: Member Screenshots
170: Community Forums
171: Member Screenshots
172: News Archive
173: Member Screenshots
174: Member Screenshots
175: Home
176: Member Screenshots
177: Photo Gallery
178: CPGlang
179: Member Screenshots
180: Member Screenshots
181: Community Forums
182: Home
183: Home
184: CPGlang
185: Home
186: CPGlang
187: Member Screenshots
188: Community Forums
189: Member Screenshots
190: Community Forums
191: Home
192: Community Forums
193: CPGlang
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Photo Gallery
197: CPGlang
198: CPGlang
199: Community Forums
200: Photo Gallery
201: Member Screenshots
202: CPGlang
203: Member Screenshots
204: Member Screenshots
205: Home
206: Home
207: Photo Gallery
208: Home
209: Member Screenshots
210: Downloads
211: Downloads
212: Member Screenshots
213: Home
214: CPGlang
215: Community Forums
216: Member Screenshots
217: Member Screenshots
218: Member Screenshots
219: Community Forums
220: Member Screenshots
221: Home
222: News Archive
223: CPGlang
224: CPGlang
225: Home
226: CPGlang
227: Home
228: CPGlang
229: Member Screenshots
230: CPGlang
231: CPGlang
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: CPGlang
235: CPGlang
236: Community Forums
237: Home
238: CPGlang
239: CPGlang
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: CPGlang
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: News Archive
252: Home
253: Home
254: Home
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: CPGlang
258: Community Forums
259: CPGlang
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: CPGlang
263: Community Forums
264: CPGlang
265: Community Forums
266: Home
267: CPGlang
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Member Screenshots
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: Home
275: Community Forums
276: Home
277: Community Forums
278: CPGlang
279: CPGlang
280: Member Screenshots
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: CPGlang
285: Home
286: CPGlang
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: News Archive
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Home
300: CPGlang
301: Photo Gallery
302: Community Forums
303: Home
304: CPGlang
305: CPGlang
306: CPGlang
307: Home
308: Community Forums
309: CPGlang
310: Community Forums
311: Member Screenshots
312: CPGlang
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Photo Gallery
316: Community Forums
317: Photo Gallery
318: Member Screenshots
319: Photo Gallery
320: Photo Gallery
321: CPGlang
322: Photo Gallery
323: Member Screenshots
324: CPGlang
325: Member Screenshots
326: CPGlang
327: Member Screenshots
328: Community Forums
329: Member Screenshots
330: Home
331: Home
332: Community Forums
333: Member Screenshots
334: Community Forums
335: Member Screenshots
336: CPGlang
337: CPGlang
338: Community Forums
339: Member Screenshots
340: Photo Gallery
341: CPGlang
342: Photo Gallery
343: Member Screenshots
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: CPGlang
347: Community Forums
348: Member Screenshots
349: Photo Gallery
350: Your Account
351: Home
352: Home
353: Member Screenshots
354: Member Screenshots
355: Community Forums
356: Home
357: Home
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: CPGlang
362: Home
363: CPGlang
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: CPGlang
368: Home
369: Home
370: CPGlang
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Home
374: CPGlang
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Downloads
378: CPGlang
379: CPGlang
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: CPGlang
387: Photo Gallery
388: Downloads
389: Community Forums
390: Downloads
391: Member Screenshots
392: CPGlang
393: Member Screenshots
394: Member Screenshots
395: Home
396: Photo Gallery
397: Member Screenshots
398: Member Screenshots
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Photo Gallery
403: Your Account
404: Photo Gallery
405: Member Screenshots
406: Home
407: Downloads
408: Community Forums
409: Home
410: CPGlang
411: Member Screenshots
412: Downloads
413: Home
414: Photo Gallery
415: Member Screenshots
416: Photo Gallery
417: Home
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: CPGlang
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Home
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: CPGlang
430: Member Screenshots
431: CPGlang
432: CPGlang
433: Community Forums
434: Member Screenshots
435: Home
436: Member Screenshots
437: CPGlang
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Member Screenshots
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: CPGlang
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: CPGlang

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:24 pm
Post subject: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Tom Dinackus brought this to my attention.



www.pngmilitarymuseum....inton.html

Beech Creek appears to be sufficiently far from Etters so as not to be a double-listing of the M46 that used to be at the latter.

That makes 8 known survivors in the US now.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Man,

I wish I could see a picture of the front. There is an unusual bracket on the gun mantle. Wondering if it's part of an old searchlight kit. Doesn't look familiar though.

Nice find.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

- Joe_D
I wish I could see a picture of the front. There is an unusual bracket on the gun mantle. Wondering if it's part of an old searchlight kit. Doesn't look familiar though.


Pah! I wish you hadn't pointed that out - now I'm going to have to spend the next week trying to find out all about it Sad

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Hmm... Now I wonder if it is the same tank...

www.pngmilitarymuseum....hase3.html





Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Or they came from the same National Guard unit and had had the same mods applied.Since both tanks appear on the PA NG site I would think they would have removed the old entry if it had moved. Looking at the paint job if they are the same tank then the Etters picture must be several years old (It takes a long time for paint to age that much :-))

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:40 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

The restored one is the Etters tank:

www.pngmilitarymuseum....hase1.html

It had ASF-C turret S/N 740 if anyone visits. Where is it?

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:25 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

As far as I can tell, its at Fort Indiantown Gap.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:52 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Bob,

To my knowledge the National Guard/ reserve never received M46's. Most stayed in Korea and then became hard targets. There's a reason there's so few of them left in the world. The ones in America are former test subjects or maintenance/school house vehicles. Which brings me to this:

Just for you Jim,

[img]http://com-central.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10605/untitled%7E3.jpg[/img]

Looks like this tank was used to test the "Leaflet II" IR search light system. To my knowledge, this IR system was never fielded. The 18" white light models were all that were used. Those were mounted directly above the gun on the mantle. This version blocks the gunner's telescope view but doesn't the periscope, which is where the IR sight would be mounted. Something that is fine for test operations but you would not do in the field. I'm pretty sure this tank is the same as the test vehicle, since an issued IR system didn't come about until the M60 was first fielded, and that was long after the M46 was removed from service. I'd love to know where this tank came from.

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:05 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

NIce find...

You got a bigger version of that image Joe?

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2067
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:35 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Jim,

I wish I did, but that's the best I can do. The picture should be in the Red Davis library at the Patton museum. Maybe Dontos can find it. It is also in Honeycutts "Patton".

_________________
Joe_D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:52 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

Two questions:
1)Where is this M46 Patton
2)It is the M46 that was previously at Etters, PA (USA)

www.pngmilitarymuseum....hase3.html
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

- bialy-r
Two questions:
1)Where is this M46 Patton


As far as I can tell, its at Fort Indiantown Gap.


2)It is the M46 that was previously at Etters, PA (USA)


Yes

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Kurt_Laughlin
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 577

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:32 am
Post subject: Re: Found a "new" M46 Patton: Beech Creek, PA

The Etters/FIG M46 is different from the Beech Creek M46. Both have the bracket over the gunner's telescope. so there were at two, whatever it was.

KL
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum