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Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

For example the various M4 Sherman, the German army did not use them
To my knowledge they started after WW2 with the M48, perhaps the M47

They had M47s and M41s too.

I can report some insignas (that doesn't necessarely matches the sources), in many cases they were hidden by the snow on outdoor vehicles:

BTR-152 URSS
Centurion CH
Chenillette Renault UE FR
Ferret both UK
G-13s: one with fake german camo. Another one still with swiss dark gray and swiss RN (78112), but with german cross
HS 30 Spz Lang DEU
M3 Half-track USA
M3 Scout Car USA
M3A3 USA
M4A1 USA
M4A3 Sherman Firefly Fancy yellow/black marking
M7 Priest DEU
M26A1 USA
M32 USA
M40 USA
M41 DEU
M48 USA
M59 USA
M74 Both USA
Pz 61 CH RN not visible anymore. Should be 77609
T-34-85 All URSS

You may want to check P-0 pictures for more

Massimo

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Thanks, Massimo

I could find this one

M4A3 Sherman Firefly Fancy yellow/black marking

After the war it has been used as "Feuerleit- und Beobachtungspanzer" (fire control and observation tank) on an military shooting range for live ammo

If I'm correct the gun has been removed and is replaced with bullet proof glass
The bright yellow/black marking was for protection
I thouhgt the British used on similar camouflage on vehicle's on live shooting range's in Canada

Michel

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

If I'm correct the gun has been removed and is replaced with bullet proof glass

I can confirm the gun was removed. Anything else was pretty much covered by snow Evil or Very Mad

Massimo

bialy-r · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

What AFV are in:

Museum für historische Wehrtechnik, Röthenbach an der Pegnitz.

???

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

For Rothenbach a/d Pegnitz, Heinrich Diehlstrasse, Bavaria
At least a M47 Patton. Other vehicles I don't know.

www.wehrtechnikmuseum.de/

Regards,
Lesley

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

For Rothenbach a/d Pegnitz, Heinrich Diehlstrasse, Bavaria

Hi folks,

thanks for the museum, if some one could get me an picture of the M47 Wink

All I could find are artillery pieces and infantry weapons

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

For Rothenbach a/d Pegnitz, Heinrich Diehlstrasse, Bavaria

Hi folks,

thanks for the museum, if some one could get me an picture of the M47

All I could find are artillery pieces and infantry weapons

Michel

what about the Half-Track and the Hetzer?

http://www.wehrtechnikmuseum.de/Rundgang/Freigelande/freigelande.html

Here is a shot showing the M47 Patton :

P-O

bialy-r · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

I had an email from the Museum they have only Half-truck and M47.

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

I know for sure now, I need some glasses

Seen the picture with the 2 artillery pieces in front of the tank on the site

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- bialy-r

I had an email from the Museum they have only Half-truck and M47.

do you know where is the Hetzer?

P-O

VonForhud · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2010 Posts: 162

- the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

- private collection, not open for public
- in the collection an Panther ausf A (confirmed in 2004)
- there is an large private collection of modern art

- private collection, not open for public that's confirmed. I would also add that it is open to very very few people..
- in the collection an Panther ausf A (confirmed in 2004) that was confirmed in 2009 by a guy who personally knows Herr Flick (that means that the tank was still owned by Herr Flick in 2009). He did take a few photos of the tank, but I'm not allowed to show them to you. The owner don't want them to be publicly released.
- there is an large private collection of modern art don't know anything about this fact

Pierre-Olivier

I can provide pictures of the Flick Panthers if you want.

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

- VonForhud

I can provide pictures of the Flick Panthers if you want.

of course I'm interested in getting some recent ones, and other members of this forum would be glad too.
We also know the 'old' pictures taken in the 1980s, and are looking for recent ones (taken after 2004).
However, I'm not sure that Herr Flick agrees that pictures of his tank are published on the internet (that's what I heard from a guy who also have such pictures)..

best

Pierre-Olivier

VonForhud · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2010 Posts: 162

I can send what I have to you, and then you can decide if you have seen it before and if you want to share.

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Very interesting!!

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Germany AFV Registers

Bauern- und Technikmuseum, Eschbach:

- Pz 61 (r/n M-77612)
- T-34/85
- Centurion (ex swiss r/n M-78878)
- Centurion (ex swiss r/n M-78883)
- M74?

www.panoramio.com/photo/19507181
www.panoramio.com/photo/19507279

Would love to get a better picture of the Pz 61!

Massimo

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