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Hello to all
I'm new here and I have allready a question
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In 2001 I took a picture of a Sherman tank at the Arnhem 40-45 Museum. See here foto-uploaden.nl/zie/j83ydy6
Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.

Walter


I visited the Arnhem 40-45 museum in 2008, and didn't see this M4A1E8..

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Hi Pierre-Olivier
That's correct. The Sherman disappeared short after 2001.
At that time the Sherman and the T-34 where standing beside the museum ,with the guns pointed to the road. And the neighbour living opposite was a Doctor who protested that the tanks were illegely there.
So they moved the T-34 in front of the building and the Sherman was sold.
That was in the newspaper back then.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:58 pm
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- Walter
Hello to all
I'm new here and I have allready a question
Hope someone can help
In 2001 I took a picture of a Sherman tank at the Arnhem 40-45 Museum. See here foto-uploaden.nl/zie/j83ydy6
Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.


Hi Walter,

good to have another Dutchmen around Cool

Correct this Sherman has been sold to the UK
However I cann't tell you when this was, or to who it has been sold

I tried to find it on Trevor's AFV register ( www.afvregister.org ) in the UK, however I could not find it.
Perhaps Lesley will know, he's the one who told me that this Sherman was sold to the UK

How are they doing at the msueum with the restoration of the other Sherman and the Staghound?
When I visited the place in 2008 the hull of both where painted in red primer
The remaining parts where scattered around the place

Michel

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Can Anyone tell me where this Sherman is today ?
I heard a story that it could be in England with Kevin Wheatcroft.

Walter


Well,

Kevin Wheatcroft owns an (apparently) running M4A1E8. The beast was clearly recently repainted, and maybe restored (it is not known if the tank was already running when Kevin bought it).

It's hard to tell if Arnhem's M4A1E8 was bought by Kevin Wheatcroft, then repaired and repainted, but it is not impossible.

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I got the info that it was sold to the UK from the newspaper

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Hi Michel
I couldn't find it also on the Wheatcroft site
Work at the museum in Arnhem isn't going very fast .I was there last week and didn't see any progress on the hulls
Thanks to Massimo I know that it is a Staghound ,I didn't know that.
You van see the pics here
foto-uploaden.nl/zie/h2erc3w and foto-uploaden.nl/zie/pevr44x

Walter
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Thanks to Massimo I know that it is a Staghound

Yes, you can consider me guilty for having another dutch guy on board Laughing

Nice to see you here Walter Welcome

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:26 pm
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Hi Walter,

thanks for the picture's
From the look's of it, there has been no progress in the last 18 month's or so
Except that the huls are starting to turn green Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:49 pm
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- Michel_Krauss
Correct this Sherman has been sold to the UK
However I cann't tell you when this was, or to who it has been sold

I tried to find it on Trevor's AFV register ( www.afvregister.org ) in the UK, however I could not find it.


That's Tichenor's site - for vehicles in the UK my link would be:

Preserved Tanks in Britain

but I'm not familiar with this tank so I can't add anything to this discussion.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:35 pm
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That's Tichenor's site


Sorry mixed them up

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:02 am
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Two ex-swiss Centurion were sold to people in the Netherlands. They are all Pz 55/60:

M-78884 in Voorburg
M-78884 in Malden

Hope it will help

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:13 am
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Thanks Massimo

will try to find them, however because they most likely privately owned they will be hard to find

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:17 am
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Hello Massimo,
Both have the same r/n?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:34 am
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Both have the same r/n?


No, it was a typo on my side, sorry

Right now I am on the road for the whole gig, and don't have the data to give you the exact r/n. Will be back home during the weekend.

If I forget to post, please remind me Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:14 pm
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Correct r/n:

M-78884 in Voorburg
M-78885 in Malden

Hope it will help. Please let me know if you catch these or any other ex-swiss Centurion.

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