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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: SHERMAN ID?
What do we have here? _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:45 am
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Very early M4A1. Notice the M3 style return rollers (centered over the VVSS units) and the twin fixed Bow machine guns. The Turret is turned so the gun (possibly an early short barrelled 75 with a counterweight. This tank would be a near twin to 'Michael' the first M4A1 delivered to the UK and now in the museum in Bovington

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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
Thanks, Bob. When I looked at it I thought the turret was centered and it had no gun. Photo from National Archives. _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
Yea the shadow on the turret threw me for a minute. Then I realized the low bustle was over the right side. It is interesting based on current concepts of non discrimination there do not appear to be any Asian, Latino or African heritage Americans in the picture _________________ Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)

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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:10 am
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- bsmart

Yea the shadow on the turret threw me for a minute. Then I realized the low bustle was over the right side. It is interesting based on current concepts of non discrimination there do not appear to be any Asian, Latino or African heritage Americans in the picture

I think "Williams" may be fulfilling one of those roles.

"Asian" was a conflicted word at that time. "Schmidt" from Milwaukee wasn't in the same perceptual category as Nakano from L.A.

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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
No women or people in wheelchairs. Wouldn't cut it today. _________________ "TUMBLEWEED"

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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:36 am Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
- MarkHolloway No women or people in wheelchairs. Wouldn't cut it today. To say nothing about the hard hats or 'suitable protective clothing' _________________ TTFN Jim If your not a member of JED then your not serious about anything military.. ********************* www.jedsite.info JED Military Equipment *********************

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
Hey y'all are slipping. I just noticed a mistake in my ID (I've corrected it) I said the suspension units were HVSS. They aren't they are the older VVSS. I meant VVSS but for some reason typed HVSS although I mentioned the M3 type return rollers (only applicable to VVSS units. Shame on you all back to vehicle ID class remember attention to detail! _________________ Bob Smart (bsmart@xecu.net)

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: Re: SHERMAN ID?
We knew what you meant. _________________ armorfortheages.com/

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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:34 am
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Hey y'all are slipping. I just noticed a mistake in my ID (I've corrected it) I said the suspension units were HVSS. They aren't they are the older VVSS. I meant VVSS but for some reason typed HVSS although I mentioned the M3 type return rollers (only applicable to VVSS units.

Shame on you all back to vehicle ID class remember attention to detail!

I put it down to advanced old age Wink

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