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Huntsville Veterans Museum #2: M4(75), M36, M48, M114, VCR
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Post subject: Huntsville Veterans Museum #2: M4(75), M36, M48, M114, VCR

M4(75) Sherman - missing gun; has SN 25145



M36 Jackson - recovered from former Yugoslavia; has SN 394 on the front hull



M48A1 Patton - has SN 717? Was written horizontally on the tow lug instead of vertically...





M114



Panhard VCR with HOT missiles



Mesa Associates UGVs - arent they cute! Wink



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Note the retrofitted gun on the M-36

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The M114 has a lot of parts we donated. They are some great guys over there.

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- Neil_Baumgardner
M4(75) Sherman - missing gun; has SN 25145



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Neil, I've started writing up this M4 as it has an ALCO serial number:

Huntsville

Can I use your photo to illustrate it?

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Trevor,
Of course - go ahead.

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Thanks Neil!

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Trevor,
Of course - go ahead.

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Neil, as I continue to track SECO vehicles I've written up the remainder of the Huntsville collection using your photos (two of the vehicles came from SECO) - I hope that's ok:

Location ID 50200: Veterans Memorial Museum, Huntsville

I have tried to identify the various Shermans and hulls from your photos but let me know if I've got them wrong. Note, in your USA register you mention a late large-hatch M4A1 but from the photos it seems clear that it's one of the hulls. I have since found your discussion with Joe DeMarco on G104 (I've added the link to the M4A1's entry) which confirms this.

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Unique ID: 1879
Serial Number: Turret: 2517 (“J50878 2517” cast into right turret side).


Trevor, the nomenclature number for a turret starts with a D, so the number is D50878. That corresponds with a "normal" 75mm low bustle turret.

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The emblem on the glacis indicates that the upper hull was manufactured by General Steel, which provided castings exclusively to Pressed Steel Car and Montreal Locomotive (source: Sherman Minutia). Montreal Locomotive made the Canadian Grizzly, so it is presumed that this M4A1 was produced by Pressed Steel Car.


There were only 3 manufacturers of small hatches M4A1s : Lima LW, PSC and Pacific Car & Foundry. The "tubular" dust cover fitting around the bow MG socket indicates that it is either PSC or Lima (PCF used another variant of dust cover fitting). As Lima didn't seem to use the cast hull lifting rings at all, and that this particular tank has this particular model of rings welded to the hull, this would tend to confirm that it is an M4A1 built by Pressed Steel Car.

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Trevor, the nomenclature number for a turret starts with a D, so the number is D50878. That corresponds with a "normal" 75mm low bustle turret.


Corrected, thanks.


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There were only 3 manufacturers of small hatches M4A1s : Lima LW, PSC and Pacific Car & Foundry. The "tubular" dust cover fitting around the bow MG socket indicates that it is either PSC or Lima (PCF used another variant of dust cover fitting). As Lima didn't seem to use the cast hull lifting rings at all, and that this particular tank has this particular model of rings welded to the hull, this would tend to confirm that it is an M4A1 built by Pressed Steel Car.


Thanks, updated. This makes me think that I need to write up General Steel in some detail, so I've made a note to return to it.

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