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the_shadock · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

it's undoubtely an SU-100, I didn't know that one, thanks !!

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Folks,

I'm doing an little research on the collection of Staman Trading at Nijverdal

And in streetview I found at the Staman location an Russian SU
Could some one tell me, what type it is: SU-85 or SU-100

If some one wants to check, search for the following at google maps:
14 Ambachtsweg, Hellendoorn, OV, Nederland

Michel

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

According to the site of the Army museum in Delft their Chaffee is not a NLD army. There are two pictures on their site, one with ALS, a number and a date and another picture of (probably) a casting number.

Anyone who can shed a light on this?

Picture ALS:
afbeeldingen.collectie...ullimage=1

Site army museum M24
www.collectie.legermus...otoIndex=1

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- TimRoyall

Yep, I nearly bought one for my collection but the track link looked more solid!

good thing the seller put an card on it with an description Laughing

At first glance it it looked like an pile of rust, nothing like Panther shell's

I visited the website of this group and apparently they find good looking stuf also

Most likely only for their private collection

Michel

TimRoyall · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Yep, I nearly bought one for my collection but the track link looked more solid!

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi TIm,

if I remember correct there was only 1 militaria stall selling rusty dug-up items

The same that was selling (very rusty) 75mm Panther shell's Mr. Green

Michel

TimRoyall

Hi Michel,

I was there too visiting some reenactor friends. I came away with a rusty, dug-up Panzer 4 track link from one of the militaria stalls. Checking it out I learnt that there were 2 types of track for the Panzer 4, 38cm and 40cm and that this was the earlier 38cm type. Doing a little bit of research has kept me amused for hours but completely mystifyed my boys!!

Tim,

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi folks,

I made an close-up picture of the bracket's welded on to the lower hull

As you can see, the brackets are very rigid and are extending over the hull belly plate

If these are mounting points for an M2 dozer blade, who is the guy to confirm this Confused

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- JimWeb

M2 dozer kit mounting points?

like the one at the A.A.F. Tank Museum Confused

That would make it an very special one, because according the AAF site there where only 50 Sherman's build with an M2 dozer blade

Michel

JimWeb · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

- what are the 2 big brackets at the lower hull?

M2 dozer kit mounting points?

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

- what are the 2 big brackets at the lower hull?

front side

no clue, sorry.

P-O

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- JimWeb

- Michel_Krauss

However these are my questions:
- this M4A3E8 seems to be fitted with an 75mm turret instead of the normal 76mm or 105mm. Is this even an real configuration?

Isn't that an M4A2E8 hull?

I seem to see the rear engine access door, which makes it an M4A3. Anyway the engine hatches and rear splash/fuel cap guard are M4A3 ones.

P-O

JimWeb · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

However these are my questions:
- this M4A3E8 seems to be fitted with an 75mm turret instead of the normal 76mm or 105mm. Is this even an real configuration?

Isn't that an M4A2E8 hull?

JimWeb · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Walter

Can someone tell me if this is a different type of the M47,
because it has not the typical muzzlebreak
This tank was in 2007 at the entrance of the museum in Best.
But since 2008 it is gone. ( I don't know where it is now )

No it merely means that the vehicle had a new barrel fitted near the end of its life and only M47 barrels were available at that time.

Walter

I found this M109 at a Military Terrain in 't Harde

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