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Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Ah but did all the others on here?

I guess not Wink

However there is more.
The IJssellinie has been build between 1951 and 1954 to protect Holland against an Russian invasion

The bleu line is the actual defence line
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/...IJssel.PNG

The line consisted of various strongpoints that have been made from obselete tanks
Moslty US Sherman, Canadian Ram tanks and British T17 Staghound armored cars

All moving parts that where no part of the turret where removed
The remaining hull and turret was used to make an concrete bunker that could operate stand-alone

In case of an Russian attack the grounds in front of the defence line would be flooded, estimated 410.000 people would have to be evactuated

The line became obselete in 1964 after the creation of the German Bundeswehr.

Michel

JimWeb · Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

Thanks Jim, I known

Ah but did all the others on here?

Michel_Krauss

Thanks Jim, I known

and actually is it called the IJssellinie Wink

The name comes from the following:
IJssel : is an river
linie : military phrase that can be translated to defence line

So in English: IJssel defence line

Michel

JimWeb

The second one is an old fortification from the Issellijn.

Michel_Krauss

Hi folks,

another question about vehicle's at the Overloon museum

Who know's what happend to the T17E1 Staghound that has been there?
I could find an picture of it taken in 2005
It appears (from the outside) to be an rather complete vehicle, just missing the gun barrel
news.webshots.com/phot...4502Qkhhed

This is an different vehicle then the one that is still there
news.webshots.com/phot...2038jbQGDA

Michel

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi folks,

question about the M109 at Overloon

Who know's what the correct description is?
The vehicle is former Dutch army so most likely it will be an little more then just M109 SPH

I found something about Dutch M109 leaving the following options: M109 - M109A2 - M109A3 - M109A2/90

Michel

the_shadock

- Michel_Krauss

ah, I think I will have to check youre website more often

If that's the situation I think it will be best to store it at your website
The USA are leaping behind an couple of hours (sorry Neil)

Michel

you know, I'm a civil servant, so I have plenty of time for leisure.. Wink

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Actually, they are already not at the same location.
The USA, Belgium and Canada registers are stored by Neil.
France and Poland are stored on my website

ah, I think I will have to check youre website more often Mr. Green

If that's the situation I think it will be best to store it at your website
The USA are leaping behind an couple of hours (sorry Neil) Twisted Evil

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

Hi P-O

concerning the storing of the file, I think it would be best to store it at the same location as the others

Then all the files will be at the same location

Actually, they are already not at the same location.
The USA, Belgium and Canada registers are stored by Neil.
France and Poland are stored on my website.

P-O

Michel_Krauss · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Hi P-O

concerning the storing of the file, I think it would be best to store it at the same location as the others

Then all the files will be at the same location

I will ask Neil if he want's to store it

Will send you an copy this evening, to check
If I'm correct you wanted to review the styling Wink

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

Quick question :

where would you like to publish the Netherlands AFVs register?

-I could put it on "the.shadock.free.fr" if you want

-Massimo may as well store it on "www.massimocorner.com"
(but I didn't ask him...)

-Neil could also store it.

P-O

Michel_Krauss

Hi folks,

it have been quite on this post for some time Wink

had some problems with the internet provider during the christmas - new year periode and at the same time had an little computer crash
Sort of "Murphy's law" Sad

But everything is in working order (at the moment)

I found something of interest last week for the NLD AFV register

It is an site of 330 materieel logistiek peleton and they have an photo site of the Military Museum Depot at Maaldift, Wassenaar before the relocation to the new depot at Soesterberg
Main page: home.planet.nl/~hoog4201/
just the photo's: home.planet.nl/~hoog42...to%27s.htm

Lesley, could you check in your database of tanks what should have been there or perhaps have been moved there?
And perhaps give me some info about them, if you have any?

Especially the following vehicle's
- 17pdr SP Achilles tank destroyer
- 1 Centurion tank, good state, no marking except an Dutch flag on left front fender
- 1 Centurion tank, rusty and parts missing with marking A10 on left front fender
- an hull of an M4??E8 Sherman tank, in an very bad state (rusty, some roadwheels missing, etc)
Could this be the same one as the M4A4 hull at Kamp Crailo?

Michel

the_shadock · Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: Re: The Netherlands AFV Registers

- Michel_Krauss

Update for the Surviving Dingo & Lynx Scout Car-2009-12-19

This is not the same vehicle as the one in the file, that is from 2007
This picture is from 2005, however I also have picture's of this vehicle of 2007 and 2009 and it still looks the same

Indeed I think that the 1st one listed at Amersfoort is a Fort Lynx..

P-O

Michel_Krauss

Update for the Surviving Dingo & Lynx Scout Car-2009-12-19

This is not the same vehicle as the one in the file, that is from 2007
This picture is from 2005, however I also have picture's of this vehicle of 2007 and 2009 and it still looks the same

Update for the Surviving Humber & Fox Armoured Car-2009-12-19

This vehecle was standing at the centre court of some of the buildings
I have been there this year and the one with the "Prinses Beatrix" was on display
Did not check if this one was also still there

Michel

Michel_Krauss

Hi folks

an question, who know's something about an Dutch collection called "Militair Mobiel Depot 40-45" in Loosdrecht Confused

Lesley, you came up with 2 vehicle's that are part of the collection
The first being an US M24 Chaffee and the second an Russian T34/85 tank

I have been doing some research and it appears that there is more

The vehicle's at the collection that I could find so far:
Based on info Lesley
- Russian T34/85 tank
- US M24 Chaffee "Skeeter"

Other vehicle's:
- US M3 Scout car "Deadly Di"
- US M3 half track or something similair, I could only find an picture of the front part so it could be anything based on the M3 halftrack
- GB Universal Bren carrier
- German SdKfz 251, actualy it is an OT-180 half-track so something for the "surviving" SdKfz & OT list
- GB Ferret Armoured Car
- ..more.. Confused

Except for these AFV's there are also several motorcyle's and cars

Who has more information about this collection??

Michel

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