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Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Monument M24 inside an Army facility:

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

A link to a zip file with a nice collection of walkaround and interior photos showing the Army Park M52: maquetland.com/zip/zip/m52.zip

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

A company dealing in old military vehicles:
www.hatzikiriakos.gr/i...ng=english

Hanno_Spoelstra · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jun 04, 2006 Posts: 185

- Tichenor

Not necessary, Canadian Grizzlys used American cast hulls. All where build by General Steel hence the G in the shield. I know it's not enough to be sure its a Grizzly but the chance of a surviving M4A1 casted by General steel is much smaller than a Grizzly in this part of the world.

I'll second that. There used to be a Grizzly named Angel of Freedom in Belgium. If this is the same, it is a Grizzly which was retrofitted with rubber tracks (the orginal CDP track being weighed in at the scrapman...) and a non-original engine. I know the Belgian owner sold it, so it could well have ended up in Greece.

the_shadock · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

- bialy-r

- Tichenor

The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.

Michel

Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?

www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles

Hard to say.. given that a lot of ex-Grizzly tanks have been sold by Portugal in the 1980s, there is more chances that it is a Grizzly rather than an M4A1. Hard to say.

P-O

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

More from the Athens Army Park:
www.militaryphotos.net...-Army-Park

Tichenor · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

- Roy_A_Lingle

Grizzlys use a type of track block call "Canadian Dry Pin" (CDP)

That's correct, however lots of Grizzly owners have changed the tracks to more common Sherman type tracks.

that Sherman is a US build M-4A1

Not necessary, Canadian Grizzlys used American cast hulls. All where build by General Steel hence the G in the shield. I know it's not enough to be sure its a Grizzly but the chance of a surviving M4A1 casted by General steel is much smaller than a Grizzly in this part of the world.

Michel

Roy_A_Lingle · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

Hi Folks!

- bialy-r

- Tichenor

The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.
Michel

Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?
www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles

From what I understand, that Sherman is a US build M-4A1.
The detail difference can be seen in the tracks and the sprockets.

Grizzlys use a type of track block call "Canadian Dry Pin" (CDP) which uses a single pin to contect one block to another. What is called a "dead track". That type of track block requires a sprocket with a different type tooth pattern from the other types. The teeth look somewhat like a single finger.

All the other Shermans use a "live track" with two pins per block contected by "end connecters" and the sprocket teeth look like pyramids pointing outward from the center.

If I am looking at the correct vehicle, then that vehicle has a "live track" block assemble.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

bialy-r · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

- L.Delsing

Anyone a grid of the location(s) of the PALIS foundation?

Regards,
Lesley

Here
www.aviationmuseum.eu/...dation.htm

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

Anyone a grid of the location(s) of the PALIS foundation?

Regards,
Lesley

bialy-r · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:56 am Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

- Tichenor

The Sherman from the Palis Foundation seems to be a Grizzly.

Michel

Question to all Sherman tanks experts is the vehicle a Grizzly ?

www.palisfoundation.co...s/vehicles

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

A small Greek company is producing decals for Greek and Cypriot vehicles. Their instruction sheets contain good pictures of the vehicles both in service and after retirement.
www.lmdecals.gr/en/172
www.lmdecals.gr/en/135

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Which is where I live. Wink

bialy-r · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: Re: AFV in Greece

- Costas_TT

More from the local museum:
www.military-vehicle-p...ber164.asp
www.military-vehicle-p...ber165.asp
www.military-vehicle-p...ber501.asp

That is War Museum, Thessaloniki - foto.mail.ru/mail/trol...304?page=1

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Marmon-Herrington MK IVF preserved in an Army facility.

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